NewLight Point/Bugs and limitations

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Deferred lighting have issues with transparency

Deferred lighting is incompatible with transparency. In some cases, it shows one of the lighting layers applied to the color of the transparent texture.

This bug is currently available by default for VertexLitGeneric and Lightmapped_4WayBlend, if they are using $translucent material parameter.

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  No $translucent. Behind the wall placed lighting and some models with small room.

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  With $translucent. Now player see everything, but only what lighted.

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  An example with model.

The same happen if used $decal material parameter.

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  An example.

This problem also applies to brushes which don't use $translucent, but which is a part of a func entity with a transparency brush (the only exception is func_detail). This happen even if transparency used for shader that doesn't shows one of the lighting layers.

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  This sticker is brush, that is part of func_brush, which uses glass as part of itself. Flashlight off.

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  This sticker is brush, that is part of func_brush, which uses glass as part of itself. Flashlight on.

If a func entity or model uses render mode Glow (3) or World Space Glow (9) - they will show one of the lighting layers. This means that you can't use this renders to make your brush transparent, you will have to create a separate texture.

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  Clear example. The box with fire extinguisher and brush uses the render modes.

Other render modes will have similar effect, but only for brushes.

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  Clear example.

Similar issue happen with overlays/decals on brushes with $translucent.

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  Metal speaker is overlay that use $alphatest, but lighting of the health charger visible anyway, because overlay pasted on the transparency window.

In some cases, use $alphatest, if it'll give similar to $translucent resualts, with this your surface also will cast dynamic shadows.

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  $translucent.

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  $alphatest.

Confirm:Is there more shaders with this issue ?

Confirm:Is there more ways to get this bug ?

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Deferred lighting doesn't shows on transparency materials

Very noticeable with shaders that doesn't shows one of the lighting layers applied to the color of the transparent texture. Properly works with $alphatest.

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  An example. Expected that you will see shadows from the ropes and the plastic road cone on the window.

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  The same moment, but in Portal 2: Community Edition (this game uses env_cascade_light from Counter-Strike: Global Offensive.)

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Clipping near new light BBOX volume corners (newLight_Point only)

If a client is near newlight_point's BBOX volume corner, the lighting starts clipping on the client side in a form of triangle shape. The size of clip depends on how close the client to the BBOX corner volume, it can be minimal or hide lighting completely. This bug disappears (the triangle shape goes away) if the client is in BBOX or is not near one of the 4 corners. The distance and how far/close should be the client directly depends on BBOX volume size.

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  Example with enabled BBOX rendering.

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Brush polygons may clip deferred lighting

Rare phenomenon, sometimes brush polygons clip deferred lighting, the reason that cause this is unknown. Can be easy fixed if divide invalid brush into two parts.

Note:Most often happen if map used fast compile settings.

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  One of examples (mat_wireframe 0).

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  One of examples (mat_wireframe 1).

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  One of examples (mat_wireframe 0).

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  One of examples (mat_wireframe 1).

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Deferred lighting shines through nodraw texture

The toolsnodraw texture doesn't create dynamic shadows for dynamic light sources, there is no option for this feature to be enabled/disabled.

Workaround:If a dynamic light source illuminates face that the player will never see, use cheap textures with low resolution, a good solution would be toolsblack or any UnlitGeneric texture.

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  The scene from player's position in bm_c2a2a map.

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  The scene from the opposite side.

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Objects with refract shader self refract if illuminated by deferred render

Objects with refract shader in their own refraction disable self, to escape some problems. However - objects with refract shader illuminated by deferred render refract self because of game can't tell the depth of objects because of the transparency, what you are see in the pictures is just the lighting layer applied to the color of transparency texture.

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  as_c3map01 - flashlight disabled, everything looks fine.

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  as_c3map01 - flashlight enabled, now this magnifying lamp refract self.

Similar issue happen if model with refraction behind wall with refraction.

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  Flashlight disabled, everything looks fine.

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  Flashlight enabled, now this wall show one of magnifying lamp deferred lighting layers.

Workaround:Divide model into two separate parts, one should use only textures with refraction, the second without textures with refractions.

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Viewmodel illuminated by deferred render draw in refract shader

Refract shader and Water shader take and refract player screen space without taking into account viewmodel. However - viewmodel illuminated by deferred render draw in refract shader because of game can't tell the depth of viewmodel because of the transparency, what you are see in the pictures is just the lighting layer applied to the color of transparency texture.

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  Clear example in test map, the hivehand illuminated by deferred render draw in the refract texture, plus it's completely discolored there..

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  Black Mesa - bm_c4a1a.

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  Black Mesa: Blue Shift - bs_c2m0a.

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Motion Blur blurring viewmodel lighting layer

For some reason Motion Blur blurring viewmodel lighting layer, you can notice this when you just rotate camera.

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  An example.

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Strange "holes" when player's camera is at a great distance

In some cases may will appear strange "holes" when player's camera is at a great distance. Strange bug that occurs quite rarely. It is affected by game resolution, for example in bm_c4a1b1 this bug shows up well with a resolution wtih 1920x1080, but with 3840x2160 the light source from the teleporter flickers, but does not form a hole.

Confirm:Does it happen with newLight_Spot ?

Workaround:Can be fixed with NormalBias value increasing.

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  Example in bm_c4a1b1, the green teleporter light source starts to glitch when player move certain distance (crossbow zoom doesn't effect to this bug, unlike HEV zoom).

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  Black Mesa, map bm_c4a1b1. NormalBias - 1.

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  Black Mesa, map bm_c4a1b1. NormalBias - 5.

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  Black Mesa: Black Ops - Restored, bmops_map_2. NormalBias - 0.5.

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  Black Mesa: Black Ops - Restored, bmops_map_2. NormalBias - 1.5.

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Gbuffer doesn't draw during cubemaps building

This leads to lighting and other affects will not be shown in cubemap image, which in some cases significantly affects the difference between the scene in the cubemap and the real scene.

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  The actual scene (used dynamic yellow lighting for the crystal).

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  The scene during cubemaps building (the tunnel appears to be dark, although the crystal glows due to $selfillum).

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  The scene from the cubemap image in the game on RPG viewmodel (the crystal is visible, but no the cave).

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Gbuffer doesn't draw in 3D Skybox

Due to gbuffer is not included for sky_camera, this causes gbuffer effects not displayed in 3D Skybox, including lighting and godrays.

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  Example, sky_camera is used in this small area with model for npc_alien_grunt_melee and newlight_point, but the lighting and godrays is not visible in 3D Skybox.

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Materials reload causes new lights with enabled shadows to disappear

Only for new lights which uses shadows. This issue happen when you open Hammer while game is opened, when a client disable cubemaps with mat_specular 0, when a client reload all materials with mat_reloadallmaterials, e. t. c. Can be fixed with save reload.

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  Before mat_reloadallmaterials.

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  After mat_reloadallmaterials. Note that the dynamic lighting from the tripod spotlight disappeared.

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Gbuffer incorrect work with cloak

Cloak is a material shader parameter for VertexLitGeneric shader, female assassins uses it to make self transparent when they need it. Godrays all time fully render through them, same for deferred lighting and xog, even

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  bm_c2a3c, the sun's rays are not cut off despite the fact that she is completely untransparent right now.

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  bm_c2a3c, she is completely untransparent, but we still can see one of lighting layers.

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Deferred lighting does not draw with -tools

If you don't use Full Screen - deferred lighting will not draw.

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  In Full Screen.

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  Out Full Screen.

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Broken water transition in viewmodel

You can note the broken lighting transition when you go into water (only if water is world geometry and uses refractions).

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  An example.

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Godrays incorrect work with $translucent

Godrays (also disk) all time fully rendering through textures with material shader parameter $translucent, because of this you will see unexpected results like in the picture (the same issue happen if used material shader parameter $decal). Disable godrays when you need or use $alphatest if it'll give resualts similar to $translucent. You also can try use some other tricks to escape this problem.

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  Bug example in bm_c1a3c.

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  Sign from other side.

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Godrays fully draws through water

Deferred lighting doesn't fully draws through water, unlike godrays.

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  Black Mesa: Blue Shift - bs_c3m0c.

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Godrays leaks

Due to way how godrays works, in some cases you can note the leaking. Can be drawn even through walls, appearing where they should not be visible at all. Disable rays with triggers or minimize the effect. Because of this, it is not recommanted to use rays in multiplayer, as there is no way to disable rays for each client individually.

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  An example.

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Godrays doesn't process viewmodel if player is underwater

Necro Patch fixed the old issue with godrays that wasn't processing models above water. This fix caused new issue, now godrays doesn't process viewmodel if player is underwater. Doesn't happen with func_water and func_water_analog.

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  Player is not underwater.

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  Player is underwater.

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Godrays can't be displayed in monitors and reflections

Godrays is post process effect that depends on player screen. That means that they can't water reflections or monitors can't show it.

Note:Godrays for monitors and reflections was added with Necro Patch. However, this is disabled in the code by default, because it didn't work correctly. There is no way to enable this feature.

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  An example.

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  An example.

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Godrays doesn't refracting by refract shader and fully draws through

Unlike deferred lighting, godrays doesn't refracting by refract shader, also fully draws through.

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  An example.

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Shadow acne with moving lights

Shadow acne (also can be called "projection clipping") appears for moving lights with shadows if parent is moving at high speed. This issue appears even if used a very high value for nr_shadow_max_passes_per_frame console variable. This issue causes black squares or dark floors due to incorrect shadow overlaying. Multiple examples can be seen in this 1 minute long video.

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  Example in bm_c1a1c. Before the elevator falls.

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  Example in bm_c1a1c. During the elevator falls.

Can be partially fixed with NormalBias value increasing. Also, if your moving light is just simple decoration (the puzzle crystals from Xen is great example), it is highly recommended to disable shadows to save limits and performance.

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  NormalBias - 1

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  NormalBias - 10

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Shadowmaps split boundary artifacts (newLight_Point only)

newLight_Point uses 1–4 separate shadowmaps to cover its projection volume. When an object is positioned close to the boundary between these shadowmaps, the shadow may appear broken, clipped, or misaligned. This artifact is most noticeable with point lights using low-resolution shadowmaps, where precision issues become more visible.

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Shadows have noise

This noise appeared with Necro Patch, greatly spoils blurry shadows. The only workaround is to make ShadowRadius value very low, but then the shadows will become extremely sharp and stepped.

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  An example.

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Shadows doesn't appear instantly after save load

The game doesn't load shadowmap for dynamic lights instantly, which is why light sources remain without shadows for a short time. This issue doesn't depends on how powerful device the game running at. The more dynamic lights with shadows level has, the more noticeable this issue, because for the game it takes longer to load shadowmaps. Example in a short video.

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  Before save load.

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  After save load (note that the large shadow from the bucket disappeared).

Workaround:Enable in worldspawn settings Level Fade In to hide this issue, this setting also will hide some other issues with loads in Black Mesa. env_fade entity can be used for this as well.

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Shadows don't appear immediately with a lot of lights with shadows

If your level use a lot of lights with shadows - shadows from enabling lights will not appear immediately, this happens if light source was disabled and if player's camera did not see this light source enabled initially.

Workaround:Before turning on light, set the intensity for light (via SetIntensityForLight input) to 0, then turn on light source and set the intensity to the desired value with delay of 0.5 seconds. Also, nr_shadow_max_passes_per_frame set to 25 can help in some cases.

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  An example.

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  bm_c2a1a.

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Shadows low passes per frame if used a lot of lights with shadows

Sometimes many lights with shadows sets low values for nr_shadow_max_passes_per_frame cvar. This cause shadows to be looking a lot less natural.

Workaround:Very easy to fix with point_servercommand, just place logic_timer which will fire nr_shadow_max_passes_per_frame 28 command each 2 seconds.

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  nr_shadow_max_passes_per_frame - 16

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  nr_shadow_max_passes_per_frame - 28

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Viewmodel doesn't support self-shadowing with deferred ligths

Unlike cascade shadows - viewmodel doesn't support self-shadowing with deferred ligths. Not a bug, but this is not what you expect from real life, it also isn't so with env_projectedtexture.

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  Here you can see how one of gluon gun switches create shadow that fall on other part of gun.

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  Light spot illuminates gluon gun, but lighting just ignore viewmodel and fully shine through, although only the side of the gun should be light.

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Spot lights have sharpness bug if shadows enabled

It is most noticeable if spot light is at not a right angle. It greatly degrades quality of shadows. Issue can be partially fixed if make NormalBias value bigger. Also can be minimized with shadow quality, range, outer and inner angles.

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  An example.
  

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  bm_c1a2b.
  

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Moving newLight_Spot clipping if shadows enabled

Even with low speed, newLight_Spot clipping when rotating, but only if shadows enabled. With pause this bug get fix.

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  An example.
  

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  bm_c1a3a - emergency light sources.
  

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  bs_c3m0a - scene with the stucked scientist.
  

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  bs_c3m2a - Dr. Rosenberg scene.
  

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