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Is the suffix really neccessary since {{autolang}} ekzists?
(using Template:Message) It seems to be quite redundant now that page translations use / to be the subpage. --Amicdict (talk) 5:34, 1 Apr 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) {{{suf}}} should be removed from all templates and replaced with {{Autolang}}, but not now. Now such deletion can cause mixing of languages, which not everyone may like. Actually, this is not such a problem, but in some templates it's better to leave {{{suf}}} until {{Lang}} is completely replaced by {{MultiPage}}.
--THE OWL (talk) 13:42, 1 Apr 2023 (UTC)
Parameter nocat=1 should prevent any categories
I want to use it in the See also sections and along the text. Lxm6 (talk) 11:35, 9 April 2023 (PDT)
The text available in all games can be misleading
(using Template:Message) See ai_network for example.
(using Template:Message) +1 --SirYodaJedi (talk) 12:58, 5 Jul 2023 (UTC) --Lxm6 (talk) 6:10, 5 Jul 2023 (UTC)
Add an option to suppress all cats
(using Template:Message) See weapon_ak47 for example. --Lxm6 (talk) 8:18, 8 Jul 2023 (UTC)
3 extra categories out of nowhere with Weapon ak47
(using Template:Message) I don't see them in my sandbox2, which is what I expect. --Lxm6 (talk) 0:55, 9 Jul 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) I seems like BasicCSseriesWeapon is to blame this time.
--Lxm6 (talk) 8:22, 9 Jul 2023 (UTC)
New template name is terrible (resolved)
(using Template:Message) "Format" is too generic a template name, when literally everything on a wiki consists of formatting. --SirYodaJedi (talk) 19:18, 16 Aug 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) I'm somewhat inclined to agree, I think something along the lines of "engine element" would fit better. Any other ideas?
--Pee (talk) 0:01, 17 Aug 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) How about {{this is a}}. In my utopia, I'm thinking of readable wikitext such as {{this is a|convar}}, {{this is a|point ent}} and so forth. This would require parameters to be swapped (but maybe this can be done when this page is moved once again):
- {{{1}}} → {{{name|
{{PAGENAME}}}}} - {{{type}}} → {{{1|{{{type}}}}}}
--Popcorn (talk) 8:46, 17 Aug 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) I like that idea. I also am thinking of maybe something like {{introtext}} or similar, as that is more accurate to what it is. Its the introtext for entity, shader, convar, etc. articles
--Equalizer5118 (talk) 16:09, 17 Aug 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) If we went that route, we should probably do {{intro text}} as 2 words, and {{introtext}} as a redirect to the 2 word template
--Pee (talk) 0:44, 18 Aug 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) "Intro text" as a name sounds far too general. I'm aware that most of the introductory paragraphs on this wiki are just explanations of what an entity is, but there are other articles here that don't conform to that, and naming the template like that's not the case and every introductory paragraph follows that one specific format seems far too broad to me. {{This is a}} makes more sense, IMO.
--Theki (talk) 18:36, 4 Sep 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) I agree. {{This is a}} speaks much more for itself as opposed to {{intro text}}. Apart from that, it is a sentence, not a text.
--Popcorn (talk) 18:48, 5 Sep 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) I guess I'll vote for {{this is a}}.
--SirYodaJedi (talk) 13:56, 6 Sep 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) That name makes more sense, I agree
--Equalizer5118 (talk) 21:23, 6 Sep 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) What's the point of this ? Since entity template has been made there are still a lot of entity pages with old "point ent" and "brush ent" with shining deprecated text at the top and you already want to change that to "this is a" ? I vote against this unless someone is actually willing to replace all the entity templates fast and not just hope others will do it for them.
--Nescius (talk) 8 Sep 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) Thanks for the reminder. I removed the deprecated texts on the entity pages for that matter since they only serve the purpose of informing a handful of wiki editors. For everyone else it is probably just irritating because in fact those pages aren't broken at all. We can still find "deprecated" templates being used anyway using What Links Here, we don't need that notice.
I don't see a big problem due to this template replacement. We could take our time and replace occurrencies whereever we see them and maybe, maybe, we'll find no more pages using point ent at some point. To be honest, it may not be the smartest idea and I'm unsure of whether this will happen at all (currently 656 pages with no namespace must be using point ent) but at least the creation of a newer point ent template, {{this is a}}, can be a silent process and new pages should use it. At least if I'm not missing something while typing this.
--Popcorn (talk) 10:22, 8 Sep 2023 (UTC)
Recent changes to parameters
(using Template:Message) Look, there is improving the template and then there is entirely reworking it! Backwards compatibility with old pages is something we should focus on, and not just randomly changing what parameters do what. We shouldn't have to create "template redirect" pages that are just pages that just use the template. We should be able to just redirect to the root template page. I don't fully understand the changes made (type being moved to 1, moving the name to name) had to be made. The parameters were fine. --Equalizer5118 (talk) 16:13, 8 Sep 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) I find this a bit irritating. A few messages above, you liked that idea, didn't you? I don't quite understand what you mean by those template redirects and what the aim of those should be; I don't think there should be template redirects in the first place. Surely you cannot simply replace every occurrence of "Format" with "This is a" if the intention was to have {{This is a|point|name=info_player_start}} instead of {{Format|info_player_start|type=point}}. But surely it would have been nice if it was that simple. Should the parameter change be reverted?
--Popcorn (talk) 22:16, 8 Sep 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) I agreed to having the template name changed, not the parameters. I just don't understand why the type parameter was exchanged for 1 and why 1 was moved to name. It didnt seem to make sense to me. The template name change I agree with, but it's the parameter changes, which have remained the same for years, that I don't really get
--Equalizer5118 (talk) 1:50, 9 Sep 2023 (UTC)
(using Template:Message) For the readability, I described the parameter swapping above. {{This is a}} wouldn't make that much sense if you still had to type {{This is a|type=point|info_player_start}} or {{This is a|info_player_start|type=point}}.
--Popcorn (talk) 2:57, 9 Sep 2023 (UTC)