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lang and multipage

Anybody know how to transition pages using {{lang}} to {{multipage}}? The amount of pages (especially quite important ones) using lang has really hampered my translating efforts. Are you supposed to move all the translated pages like Category:Modding:fr to Category:Modding/fr individually and mark all the old pages with deletion. I know there's some info on the multipage documentation page, but it's a bit unclear and I'd really rather not create some big mess. --Wisdurm (talk) 20:15, 23 Dec 2023

Here's everything you need to do for normal pages (templates are handled seperately, they should ideally just be one template that uses {{autolang}}) 1. Move the English page to [page name]/en

2. For all other languages, move them to be subpages of the base page (e.g. from Main Page:es to Main Page/es).

3. Assuming no pages link to the original language page, mark it for deletion.

4. Replace all instances of {{lang}} on the subpages with {{langsp}}, and if the page should have a different title in said language, instead use {{langsp|title=[translation]}}.

5. Remove any categories the subpages are in.

6. Add {{MultiPage}} to the base page and place categories there as well.

7. If {{this is a}} was on the English page, move it to the base page. It'll automatically translate based on the language.

So, if Main Page:es contained this:

{{lang|title=Display Title}} Page Contents [[Category:1]]

then Main Page/es should contain this (note the omission of the category):

{{langsp|title=Display Title}} Page Contents

As for categories, the pages in the category (not specifically the ones in the content of the page, but rather what follows "The following $1 pages are in this category, out of $2 total.") should be converted to MultiPage, so that the category should contain no pages. After that, just do what you would do for regular pages. --Pee (talk) 21:09, 23 Dec 2023

Sidebar translation

The possibility for translating links in the sidebar is now open, as seen at MediaWiki_talk:Sidebar. However many translations are still missing. I'm thinking we should probably put them all on some page where wiki moderators can get them from later.
I looked at all the users in Category:Translators, and it seems currently we could get (from just people on this wiki currently) translations for English, Chinese, Croatian, Finnish, Russian and Vietnamese. Amicdict states that they translate to Esperanto, however they haven't been online in a bit. There's also Fabi135 who translates to German, JacobsDevelop who translates to Polish and PowiDLa who translates to Ukranian, but they haven't been online in even longer.

EDIT: I've made a page in my user space for this at User:Wisdurm/Sandbox/Translators' noticeboard. Feel free to add translations. --Wisdurm (talk) 9:32, 15 Jun 2024

Modern and Classic templates

I'm going to replace all instances of "Modern" and "Classic" templates such as {{ModernConfirm}} & {{ClassicConfirm}} with just {{Confirm}} using WisdomBot. Feel free to tell me if this is a horrible idea. Task should be done within the next 24 hours or so. --Wisdurm (talk) 20:31, 16 Jun 2024

The reason {{Confirm}} still directs to {{classicConfirm}} is because the modern variant is unable to do inline (like so ^[confirm]).
— SirYodaJedi (talk) 16:54, 19 June 2024 (PDT)

Central location to discuss formatting changes

I think there is a need to have a central location to discuss formatting changes. Over the years people would tend to propose changes on the talk page of a page they wanted to change, ask for feedback, get no reply and then change things, only to receive push-back after the fact which resulted in arguments and/or edit wars. If there were an easily found page to put those discussions it could help avoid that kind of stuff in the future. Perhaps this page could be used for that, but this seems to be more for general discussion than formatting in particular. -Solokiller (talk) 07:06, 21 June 2024 (PDT)