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== New page for "Subrect Editor" ==
== Can i get the source file for the Valve Engines diagram? ==
 
{{Message
| user = SethTooQuick
| time = 4:23, 21 Aug 2023
| Hi! I made a new page for the Image Subrect Editor. I have no idea how to create a template for the icon and ez click link thingy. https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Image_Subrect_Editor If you could help out, as I think you're the one doing this, that'd be cool. Thanks!
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{{Message
| user = Kr0tchet
| time = 11:33, 21 Aug 2023
| I can do that but I would have to install some Source 2 games manually, by pirating games (HL Alyx) or using third-party sites (I picked the one that i trust the most) to get CS2 for free, then I can extract the SDK icons (such as Image Subrect Editor) from one of those games. That icon template isn't that hard to make.
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{{Message
| user = SethTooQuick
| time = 11:40, 21 Aug 2023
| I can upload the icon. I'll just follow the other icons naming conventions.
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{{Message
| user = SethTooQuick
| time = 11:45, 21 Aug 2023
| Hi! I've added the icon. I couldn't find what the others were named, but the name is  image_subrect_editor_icon.png
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{{Message
| user = Kr0tchet
| time = 11:47, 21 Aug 2023
| Usually you can name it whatever you want, but I recommend you to use something like "Icon-S2ParticleEditor.png" or "Icon-(Tool name).png" for example.<br> For the company logos, software logos, etc..., use "Logo-(Name).png".
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{{Message
| user = SethTooQuick
| time = 11:48, 21 Aug 2023
| Done. new name is Icon-image_subrect_editor.png
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{{Message
| user = SethTooQuick
| time = 11:49, 21 Aug 2023
| Oh, I added underscores. I can move it again lol
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{{Message
| user = SethTooQuick
| time = 11:51, 21 Aug 2023
| File:Icon-ImageSubrectEditor.png [[File:Icon-ImageSubrectEditor.png]]
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{{Message
| user = Kr0tchet
| time = 12:01, 21 Aug 2023
| Another thing, if you go to {{Path|common\Counter Strike 2\core\tools\images\}} for example, there is tons of higher-res version of the tools icon, such as Image subrect in 32x32 or higher. These benefits high-DPI displays such as 4K or Retina one, but to use it on VDC, you just need third-party programs or website to convert it to PNG (which you already know), instead of uploading 16x16 version, upload the 32x32 (or higher) version of the icons (if the game/tools/software have it), and using one parameters (like {{param|ico size {{=}} 16px}}) for the [[Template:Software|icon template]] to scaling it down back to 16px (but will scaled back to 32x32 or more if you zoom your browser in or by using high-res displays). Right now I'm currently converting the ico to 32x32 size (and optionally upscale it if needed to), then overwrite the 16x16 one.
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{{Message
| user = SethTooQuick
| time = 12:04, 21 Aug 2023
| That's where I got that 16x16 icon from, it's the only one there. I'll upscale it and reupload.
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{{Message
| user = SethTooQuick
| time = 12:06, 21 Aug 2023
| Ah nvm, you got it. But yeah, that was the only scale of that icon.
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{{Message
| user = Kr0tchet
| time = 12:10, 21 Aug 2023
| Template has been created now. See {{t|ImgSubrect}}. Note that the newly uploaded icon may ended up look blurry (with 32px size) because the cache wasn't fully cleared on your browser, just use {{Key|Ctrl}} + {{Key|F5}} to clear all caches while reloading the page.
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{{Message
| user = SethTooQuick
| time = 12:12, 21 Aug 2023
| Awesome, thank you! I just had 0 idea how any of that template stuff works.
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== redoing hotspot page ==
 
{{Message
| user = SethTooQuick
| time = 10:20, 23 Aug 2023
| Hi again! So, I was wondering if remaking the hotspot page should be done? As I've made the Image Subrect Editor page, the old docs need to be cleaned up. Do you think it's wise to turn that page into "Hotspots" and orgainzie the info like the new subrect page?
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{{Message
| user = SethTooQuick
| time = 10:22, 23 Aug 2023
| [[Half-Life:_Alyx_Workshop_Tools/Level_Design/Hotspot_Texturing]]<br>{{imgSubrect|2}}
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{{Message
| user = Kr0tchet
| time = 14:59, 23 Aug 2023
| Well... I don't know. Maybe ask somebody else for that.
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== Fixed L4D page ==
 
{{Message
| user = Equalizer5118
| time = 21:38, 30 Aug 2023
| Hey man, fixed the L4D page. Turns out I must have accidentally added an extra <nowiki>}}</nowiki> somewhere in the Mod Status part of the template, or broke it in one way or another. Fixed by removing Mod Status.
 
I need to stop editing templates on mobile...
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{{Message
| user = Kr0tchet
| time = 3:32, 31 Aug 2023
| gee thanks. Looks good now.
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== I updated the "Compiling under VS2022" page. ==
 
{{Message
| user = Golden Star
| time = 19:25, 21 Sep 2023
| I linked a troubleshooting guide to fix the VPC regkeys stuff and put the note into the correct format. {{Note|Like this}}
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== 25th some edit. ==
There are some branches that aren't on that diagram ([https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/User:Mr._SystemError/Sandbox#Source_engine_branches_template These ones]), can I get the source file for that image? Or if it isnt possible, can you add these branches to the image? -<span style="font-family:TF2 Build;">[[User:Mr._SystemError|Mr. System Error]]<sup>([[User_talk:Mr._SystemError|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mr._SystemError|C]])</sup></span> 14:03, 18 January 2025 (PST)
:Too many to fit into one image and also games (even if it's introducing new engine features), shouldn't be added here unless they are incompatible with each other or made major modifications (there may be some exceptions through like [[Svengine]], which are made for one game but have major modifications that made it incompatible with GoldSrc).</br>For example, HL2: Update shouldn't be listed here since it's just older version of Source 2013 SP, and same for [[PUNT]], [[Tactical Intervention]] and [[The Stanley Parable]], which made minor modifications to Portal 2 engine. About GoldSrc aswell, console ports shouldn't be marked as branches, and {{sohl|1}} is basically Mapbase but for GoldSrc. --[[User:Kr0tchet|leonidakarlach]] ([[User talk:Kr0tchet|talk]]) 21:02, 18 January 2025 (PST)
::Maybe you can put some of them into little notes that you have on the image? For example: "-PUNT and The Stanley Parable use modified versions of Portal 2 branch, Punt added *add most important features*, and TSP added *also most important features*" or something like that. But they do little modifications to the branches, as you said, so maybe not put them, or put them, i dont know, its your choice and image after all, im not trying to force things, just giving suggestions that could improve things -<span style="font-family:TF2 Build;">[[User:Mr._SystemError|Mr. System Error]]<sup>([[User_talk:Mr._SystemError|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mr._SystemError|C]])</sup></span> 01:19, 19 January 2025 (PST)
::: I'm gonna keep the image as-is for now, through. --[[User:Kr0tchet|leonidakarlach]] ([[User talk:Kr0tchet|talk]]) 01:34, 19 January 2025 (PST)


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== Engine build version / protocol ==
| user = NOUG4AT
| time = 5:00, 19 Nov 2023
| 1 = Hello! Have you checked the functionality of the {{TFC|4}}? (with 25th {{hl|4}} update) I have Linux, and to be honest, I did not find any problems running this modification. Although {{cscz|4}}/{{cs|4}} don't work.
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{{Message
| user = Kr0tchet
| time = 5:53, 19 Nov 2023
| I don't own that game so I would have to check the pirated version through Steam Underground forum (which is always updated to the latest version). The game did launch just fine, but it's does not have the HUD scaling fix at all, the menu did changed through and the logo on the menu was not cropped properly. However FOV Widescreen fix appears to work just fine, along with other video options.
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{{Message
Hi. I noticed you added some information like this to the engine branch pages:
| user = Equalizer5118
| time = 20:38, 19 Nov 2023
| 1 = TFC appears to function fine. Its running well on my PC with no isues.
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== Thank you! ==
<kbd>The engine versions for this branch are build 2547 (Lost Coast) or 2761 (EP1) up to 4044 (Protocol 7).<kbd>


{{Message
I wonder how can I get that kind of information? I'm trying to guess what branch a given game belongs to based on it's files. Could you share anything about that? Also, can I reach you on discord? {{Unsigned|XBLAH}}
| user = TF2CutContent
:Build information are available on [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ldzhd6vxd-03le5ymesUeG-hLWmxLpH79ajayeYDUNs/edit Google Spreadsheets] made by SourceRuns community. I do have Discord through (user: leonidakl360) so feel free to contact me there. --[[User:Kr0tchet|leonidakarlach]] ([[User talk:Kr0tchet|talk]]) 05:07, 25 February 2025 (PST)
| time = 15:58, 23 Nov 2023
| 1 = You are just awesome, helping with the navbox stuff! And I love the color additions you've done too!
}}
{{Message
| user = Kr0tchet
| time = 16:10, 23 Nov 2023
| thanks. :)
}}


== Does Mapbase belong on [[Template:branch-navbox]]? ==
== occasional minor edit mismarked ==


{{Message
[[File:Info.png|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hi {{ROOTPAGENAME}}! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "[[w:Help:Minor edit|Minor edit]]" has a specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typographical error or reverting obvious [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]. Any edit that changes the <em>meaning</em> of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. --[[User:Nescius|Nescius]] ([[User talk:Nescius|talk]]) 01:00, 24 April 2025 (PDT)
| user = Equalizer5118
:i'm aware of this and i often making mistakes and rushing edit so sometime i may mark some of my edits as minor and sometime i don't. --[[User:Kr0tchet|leonidakarlach]] ([[User talk:Kr0tchet|talk]]) 01:42, 24 April 2025 (PDT)
| time = 17:12, 12 Jan 2024
| 1 = Hey man, I'm asking all active editors of the VDC to respond to the survey on my user page on whether or not Mapbase is an engine branch or not. I would like it if you submitted a response!
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Can i get the source file for the Valve Engines diagram?

There are some branches that aren't on that diagram (These ones), can I get the source file for that image? Or if it isnt possible, can you add these branches to the image? -Mr. System Error(T - C) 14:03, 18 January 2025 (PST)

Too many to fit into one image and also games (even if it's introducing new engine features), shouldn't be added here unless they are incompatible with each other or made major modifications (there may be some exceptions through like Svengine, which are made for one game but have major modifications that made it incompatible with GoldSrc).
For example, HL2: Update shouldn't be listed here since it's just older version of Source 2013 SP, and same for PUNT, Tactical Intervention and The Stanley Parable, which made minor modifications to Portal 2 engine. About GoldSrc aswell, console ports shouldn't be marked as branches, and Spirit of Half-Life is basically Mapbase but for GoldSrc. --leonidakarlach (talk) 21:02, 18 January 2025 (PST)
Maybe you can put some of them into little notes that you have on the image? For example: "-PUNT and The Stanley Parable use modified versions of Portal 2 branch, Punt added *add most important features*, and TSP added *also most important features*" or something like that. But they do little modifications to the branches, as you said, so maybe not put them, or put them, i dont know, its your choice and image after all, im not trying to force things, just giving suggestions that could improve things -Mr. System Error(T - C) 01:19, 19 January 2025 (PST)
I'm gonna keep the image as-is for now, through. --leonidakarlach (talk) 01:34, 19 January 2025 (PST)

Engine build version / protocol

Hi. I noticed you added some information like this to the engine branch pages:

The engine versions for this branch are build 2547 (Lost Coast) or 2761 (EP1) up to 4044 (Protocol 7).

I wonder how can I get that kind of information? I'm trying to guess what branch a given game belongs to based on it's files. Could you share anything about that? Also, can I reach you on discord? —Unsigned comment added by XBLAH (talk • contribs) Always sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~)

Build information are available on Google Spreadsheets made by SourceRuns community. I do have Discord through (user: leonidakl360) so feel free to contact me there. --leonidakarlach (talk) 05:07, 25 February 2025 (PST)

occasional minor edit mismarked

Information icon Hi Kr0tchet! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typographical error or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. --Nescius (talk) 01:00, 24 April 2025 (PDT)

i'm aware of this and i often making mistakes and rushing edit so sometime i may mark some of my edits as minor and sometime i don't. --leonidakarlach (talk) 01:42, 24 April 2025 (PDT)
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