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== Mi havas problemojn (kaj ankaŭ kritikojn) pri ĉi instruaĵara paĝo ==
== {{Autolang|I am having problems (and also critiques) about instruction page.|eo=Mi havas problemojn (kaj ankaŭ kritikojn) pri ĉi instruaĵara paĝo}} ==


{{Message
{{Message
|user=Amicdict
|user=Amicdict
|time=2:29, 4 Apr 2023
|time=2:29, 4 Apr 2023
|{{Autolang
|1-a: {{quote|Do not move pages if you have not corrected their contents. {{tl|MultiPage}} is not worthy of shitty articles.}}
|1-a: {{quote|Do not move pages if you have not corrected their contents. {{tl|MultiPage}} is not worthy of shitty articles.}}


Kial? Kiel ni finos anstataŭigon al {{tl|MultiPage}} (PlurPaĝo) se ni ne povas traduki ''ĉiujn'' artikolojn (eĉ se tiojn estas malbonan)? Se artikolo estas malbonan; kio zorgus? Ĝi povas plibonigota.
Why? How will we finish the replacement to {{tl|MultiPage}} if we can't translate ''each'' article (even if they are bad). If the article is bad, who cares? It can be improved later.


2-a: {{quote|Remove language categories (for example, the [[:Category:Level Design:ru|Level Design:ru]] category should be removed, and the [[:Category:Level Design|Level Design]] category should remain). Language categories are not needed, since their link is written in English anyway, so they need to be removed from the pages when using {{tl|MultiPage}}}}
2-a: {{quote|Remove language categories (for example, the [[:Category:Level Design:ru|Level Design:ru]] category should be removed, and the [[:Category:Level Design|Level Design]] category should remain). Language categories are not needed, since their link is written in English anyway, so they need to be removed from the pages when using {{tl|MultiPage}}}}


Malkreigo por kial?
Why the removal?


Ĉi logiko (ke la kategorio nomita angle do tio devus malkreota) aplikantebla al ŝablonpaĝojn. Tio estas ankaŭ anglcentran kaj rezulte popolo malfacile batalos kontraŭ anglan por Tradukada Helpo.
This logic (that the cateogry is named english therefore the foreign language names must be destroyed) is just as applicable to template pages. Also, it's anglocentric and people will have to fuck with English anyway as a result to help translate.


3-a: {{quote|Don't move pages after simply removing {{tl|Lang}} and adding {{tl|Language subpage}} to them. '''Fast replacement of {{tl|Lang}} with minimal changes in the page code was not intended.'''}}
3-a: {{quote|Don't move pages after simply removing {{tl|Lang}} and adding {{tl|Language subpage}} to them. '''Fast replacement of {{tl|Lang}} with minimal changes in the page code was not intended.'''}}


Intencito de kio? Kial vi zorgas pri «intenco» de la ago? Se tio ago funkcias, do zorgi pri intencon por kial?
Intention by who? Why are you caring about «Intention» of the action? If the action worked, why care about the intention?


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Vi ĵus komencinte skribis ĉi instruaĵojn sen demandas eĉ la malmultajn redaktistojn jenajn; do kio okazus se aliredaktisto kritiki vin? Pli interrompoj por ĉi golo!
Vi just started wrote these instructions without asking even the few (active) editors here; so what would occur if another editor criticizes you? More interruptions against completion of the goal!


(tio tradukota angle)
el esperanta originalo.
}}
|eo=1-a: {{quote|Do not move pages if you have not corrected their contents. {{tl|MultiPage}} is not worthy of shitty articles.}}


== I am having problems (and also critiques) about instruction page. ==
Kial? Kiel ni finos anstataŭigon al {{tl|MultiPage}} (PlurPaĝo) se ni ne povas traduki ''ĉiujn'' artikolojn (eĉ se tiojn estas malbonan)? Se artikolo estas malbonan; kio zorgus? Ĝi povas plibonigota.
 
{{Message
|user=Amicdict
|time=5:16, 4 Apr 2023
|1-a: {{quote|Do not move pages if you have not corrected their contents. {{tl|MultiPage}} is not worthy of shitty articles.}}
 
Why? How will we finish the replacement to {{tl|MultiPage}} if we can't translate ''each'' article (even if they are bad). If the article is bad, who cares? It can be improved later.


2-a: {{quote|Remove language categories (for example, the [[:Category:Level Design:ru|Level Design:ru]] category should be removed, and the [[:Category:Level Design|Level Design]] category should remain). Language categories are not needed, since their link is written in English anyway, so they need to be removed from the pages when using {{tl|MultiPage}}}}
2-a: {{quote|Remove language categories (for example, the [[:Category:Level Design:ru|Level Design:ru]] category should be removed, and the [[:Category:Level Design|Level Design]] category should remain). Language categories are not needed, since their link is written in English anyway, so they need to be removed from the pages when using {{tl|MultiPage}}}}


Why the removal?
Malkreigo por kial?


This logic (that the cateogry is named english therefore the foreign language names must be destroyed) is just as applicable to template pages. Also, it's anglocentric and people will have to fuck with English anyway as a result to help translate.
Ĉi logiko (ke la kategorio nomita angle do tio devus malkreota) aplikantebla al ŝablonpaĝojn. Tio estas ankaŭ anglcentran kaj rezulte popolo malfacile batalos kontraŭ anglan por Tradukada Helpo.


3-a: {{quote|Don't move pages after simply removing {{tl|Lang}} and adding {{tl|Language subpage}} to them. '''Fast replacement of {{tl|Lang}} with minimal changes in the page code was not intended.'''}}
3-a: {{quote|Don't move pages after simply removing {{tl|Lang}} and adding {{tl|Language subpage}} to them. '''Fast replacement of {{tl|Lang}} with minimal changes in the page code was not intended.'''}}


Intention by who? Why are you caring about «Intention» of the action? If the action worked, why care about the intention?
Intencito de kio? Kial vi zorgas pri «intenco» de la ago? Se tio ago funkcias, do zorgi pri intencon por kial?


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Vi just started wrote these instructions without asking even the few (active) editors here; so what would occur if another editor criticizes you? More interruptions against completion of the goal!
Vi ĵus komencinte skribis ĉi instruaĵojn sen demandas eĉ la malmultajn redaktistojn jenajn; do kio okazus se aliredaktisto kritiki vin? Pli interrompoj por ĉi golo!


el esperanta originalo.
(tio tradukota angle)
}}
}}
}}

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