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Any more questions Jupix? --[[User:Cubedude|Cubedude]] 17:26, 5 Mar 2006 (PST) | Any more questions Jupix? --[[User:Cubedude|Cubedude]] 17:26, 5 Mar 2006 (PST) | ||
: {{Comment|oneline|Heh, not at the moment, but in the near future I probably will have, don't worry :)| | : {{Comment|oneline|Heh, not at the moment, but in the near future I probably will have, don't worry :)|[[User:Jupix|Jupix]] 21:26, 5 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ||
Yo dog, whats with the different language on the other page. lol, what if I want to read it. lol. --[[User:Cubedude|Cubedude]] 11:02, 6 Mar 2006 (PST) | Yo dog, whats with the different language on the other page. lol, what if I want to read it. lol. --[[User:Cubedude|Cubedude]] 11:02, 6 Mar 2006 (PST) | ||
: {{Comment|oneline|It's Finnish. In a nutshell, it says "I can do the prop for you if you'd like" - "Fine with me, VMF" :P| | : {{Comment|oneline|It's Finnish. In a nutshell, it says "I can do the prop for you if you'd like" - "Fine with me, VMF" :P|[[User:Jupix|Jupix]] 11:07, 6 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ||
== Image formatting == | == Image formatting == | ||
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You may want to look at the edits I made to [[Cordon compiling]] and [[Fog tutorial]]. It shows you have you can use the tag <code><nowiki><br style="clear:both"></nowiki></code> to control image flow. You can also find information about it at [[Wikipedia:Help:Extended image syntax]] --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 12:05, 6 Mar 2006 (PST) | You may want to look at the edits I made to [[Cordon compiling]] and [[Fog tutorial]]. It shows you have you can use the tag <code><nowiki><br style="clear:both"></nowiki></code> to control image flow. You can also find information about it at [[Wikipedia:Help:Extended image syntax]] --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 12:05, 6 Mar 2006 (PST) | ||
: {{Comment|oneline|OK, I'll give it more thought in the future. Sorry.| | : {{Comment|oneline|OK, I'll give it more thought in the future. Sorry.|[[User:Jupix|Jupix]] 23:27, 6 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ||
Thanks for contributing lately, Jupix! | Thanks for contributing lately, Jupix!—'''[[User:Ts2do|ts2do]]''' 15:08, 6 Mar 2006 (PST) | ||
: {{Comment|oneline|<nowiki>:)</nowiki>| | : {{Comment|oneline|<nowiki>:)</nowiki>|[[User:Jupix|Jupix]] 23:27, 6 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ||
== The Arch == | == The Arch == | ||
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:It cluttered the page so much that I created a new article for it: [[User Interface feedback/Bugs/ClientBetaChangelist]]. [[User:Jupix|Jupix]] | :It cluttered the page so much that I created a new article for it: [[User Interface feedback/Bugs/ClientBetaChangelist]]. [[User:Jupix|Jupix]] | ||
I reverted [[UIBugs]] and [[UIOpinions]] until this can be rectified. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 17:36, 19 Mar 2006 (PST) | I reverted [[UIBugs]] and [[UIOpinions]] until this can be rectified. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 17:36, 19 Mar 2006 (PST) | ||
:{{Comment|oneline|I will be fix these in the evening. Thanks for not deleting the stuff I already did :p| | :{{Comment|oneline|I will be fix these in the evening. Thanks for not deleting the stuff I already did :p|[[User:Jupix|Jupix]]}} | ||
::{{Comment|Hi. Can you also revert [[User_Interface_feedback/Bugs/Localization_issues/French]] to the previous location and set up a redirect, if required? There is no need for a four-level nesting of subpages, if the categories above French are empty and other languages have not undergone a systematic QA. This also breaks external links to this page. Please contact the contributors of the affected pages before moving content around. Please also delete [[User Interface feedback/Bugs/ClientBetaChangelist]] as it duplicates info on [[UIBugs]].|--[[User:Pb75|Pb75]] 02:21, 20 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ::{{Comment|Hi. Can you also revert [[User_Interface_feedback/Bugs/Localization_issues/French]] to the previous location and set up a redirect, if required? There is no need for a four-level nesting of subpages, if the categories above French are empty and other languages have not undergone a systematic QA. This also breaks external links to this page. Please contact the contributors of the affected pages before moving content around. Please also delete [[User Interface feedback/Bugs/ClientBetaChangelist]] as it duplicates info on [[UIBugs]].|--[[User:Pb75|Pb75]] 02:21, 20 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ||
:::{{Comment|In short: no, I don't think I will. You see, IMO, there's no reason to ''not'' make the French localization issues a subpage. As a matter of fact, I think it is ''very'' illogical if it's kept separate from all the other bug report pages as it was before. And, the reason it is a single article is because it is so long - if any of the other languages will gain a bug list this long they will deserve their own pages as well. And as I noted above, external links will not break as long as the old articles are kept in place. Internal links I have updated already.<br>As for [[User Interface feedback/Bugs/ClientBetaChangelist]], it will also stay. UIBugs, on the other hand, will not as I will move it to [[User Interface feedback]] and update the contents.<br>If you have any further comments on this, please feel free to voice them.| | :::{{Comment|In short: no, I don't think I will. You see, IMO, there's no reason to ''not'' make the French localization issues a subpage. As a matter of fact, I think it is ''very'' illogical if it's kept separate from all the other bug report pages as it was before. And, the reason it is a single article is because it is so long - if any of the other languages will gain a bug list this long they will deserve their own pages as well. And as I noted above, external links will not break as long as the old articles are kept in place. Internal links I have updated already.<br>As for [[User Interface feedback/Bugs/ClientBetaChangelist]], it will also stay. UIBugs, on the other hand, will not as I will move it to [[User Interface feedback]] and update the contents.<br>If you have any further comments on this, please feel free to voice them.|[[User:Jupix|Jupix]] 05:19, 20 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ||
::::{{Comment|I reverted the changes to the French localization pages. These changes were too large to make without further discussion. Perhaps you misunderstood my explanation when I said you did not need subpages. I meant it was fine to have ''separate'' pages, but subpages are different. [[Wikipedia:Subpages]] are literally long title names with slashes "/" in them. They add hierarchy to the site that is usually not necessary in standard articles because links, category pages, and disambiguation pages already serve that purpose. Look around the site and you'll notice that there are almost no subpages outside of user pages. This is because the heavy lifting of organization is done by links between pages and category pages like [[:Category:Feedback]] or [[:Category:Modding]].|--[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 09:42, 20 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ::::{{Comment|I reverted the changes to the French localization pages. These changes were too large to make without further discussion. Perhaps you misunderstood my explanation when I said you did not need subpages. I meant it was fine to have ''separate'' pages, but subpages are different. [[Wikipedia:Subpages]] are literally long title names with slashes "/" in them. They add hierarchy to the site that is usually not necessary in standard articles because links, category pages, and disambiguation pages already serve that purpose. Look around the site and you'll notice that there are almost no subpages outside of user pages. This is because the heavy lifting of organization is done by links between pages and category pages like [[:Category:Feedback]] or [[:Category:Modding]].|--[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 09:42, 20 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ||
:::::{{Comment|Yes, I know what subpages are. The main reason I like them is that they tidy up category pages by putting related articles closer together instead of scattering them throughout the alphabet (sort of like the Creating Grass / Grass Creation issue). So, if there's two separate pages under the same topic, it's natural to put the more detailed article lower in the hierarchy (in this case, French localization issues would go under localization issues which goes under bugs and so on, the end result being that a user doesn't have to guess where to start looking for the article, it's basically linked to from everywhere, plus it's right next to the main articles in the category view). Do I make my thoughts clear?| | :::::{{Comment|Yes, I know what subpages are. The main reason I like them is that they tidy up category pages by putting related articles closer together instead of scattering them throughout the alphabet (sort of like the Creating Grass / Grass Creation issue). So, if there's two separate pages under the same topic, it's natural to put the more detailed article lower in the hierarchy (in this case, French localization issues would go under localization issues which goes under bugs and so on, the end result being that a user doesn't have to guess where to start looking for the article, it's basically linked to from everywhere, plus it's right next to the main articles in the category view). Do I make my thoughts clear?|[[User:Jupix|Jupix]] 10:29, 20 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ||
::::::{{Comment|Your interest in keeping things organized really is appreciated, but this is exactly what categories are for. Sub-categories can even be added if pages need some kind of further grouping if the category listing has gotten too large to find articles. Wikipedia went through the subpage model [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Subpages/Archive years ago] and switched to the category model due to its greater flexibility. Subpages essentially hard-code a single category name into the article title, which is undesirable and inflexible, and make simple linking of pages much more complex and error-prone.|--[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 13:43, 20 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ::::::{{Comment|Your interest in keeping things organized really is appreciated, but this is exactly what categories are for. Sub-categories can even be added if pages need some kind of further grouping if the category listing has gotten too large to find articles. Wikipedia went through the subpage model [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Subpages/Archive years ago] and switched to the category model due to its greater flexibility. Subpages essentially hard-code a single category name into the article title, which is undesirable and inflexible, and make simple linking of pages much more complex and error-prone.|--[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 13:43, 20 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ||
:::::::{{Comment|Okay then, I understand your opinion (doesn't mean I share it). I guess we will be adding more categories then and reducing subpages. But, bear in mind, we still desperately need subpages and article splits in some articles, you cannot completely discard that habit.| | :::::::{{Comment|Okay then, I understand your opinion (doesn't mean I share it). I guess we will be adding more categories then and reducing subpages. But, bear in mind, we still desperately need subpages and article splits in some articles, you cannot completely discard that habit.|[[User:Jupix|Jupix]] 05:26, 21 Mar 2006 (PST)}} | ||
:::::::{{Comment|oneline|Jeff, many thanks for looking into this.|--[[User:Pb75|Pb75]] 00:16, 21 Mar 2006 (PST)~}} | :::::::{{Comment|oneline|Jeff, many thanks for looking into this.|--[[User:Pb75|Pb75]] 00:16, 21 Mar 2006 (PST)~}} | ||
Revision as of 09:09, 10 December 2022
Any more questions Jupix? --Cubedude 17:26, 5 Mar 2006 (PST)
Yo dog, whats with the different language on the other page. lol, what if I want to read it. lol. --Cubedude 11:02, 6 Mar 2006 (PST)
Image formatting
You may want to look at the edits I made to Cordon compiling and Fog tutorial. It shows you have you can use the tag <br style="clear:both"> to control image flow. You can also find information about it at Wikipedia:Help:Extended image syntax --JeffLane 12:05, 6 Mar 2006 (PST)
Thanks for contributing lately, Jupix!—ts2do 15:08, 6 Mar 2006 (PST)
The Arch
It is done! --Deadity 03:17, 10 Mar 2006 (PST)
UIBugs reorg
Although the reorganization effort is appreciated, and I don't mean to discourage you, but there's a few issues:
- When doing something like this, you really need to use the Move function on the page, not paste the contents into a new page. The history for UIBugs was not moved, neither was the talk page. Same with UIOpinions.
- Acknowledged. Please remove User Interface feedback, I will move UIBugs to that location. Same for User Interface feedback/Opinions. The pages cannot be moved until the new ones are deleted. Jupix 21:15, 19 Mar 2006 (PST)
- The /sub-pages are unnecessary -- it would be better to keep the names short and without subpages, like "User Interface bugs", "User Interface feedback", "User Interface localization issues", etc.
- Are you absolutely certain about this? You can always create redirects, and IMO, it's better to have all the categorized pages (in this case, the articles) subpaged. If you're worried about the pages not showing up on Go/Search, that can be fixed with redirects. Jupix
- The news posts at the top of the page of UIBugs was not transferred? These seem rather important.
- It cluttered the page so much that I created a new article for it: User Interface feedback/Bugs/ClientBetaChangelist. Jupix
I reverted UIBugs and UIOpinions until this can be rectified. --JeffLane 17:36, 19 Mar 2006 (PST)
People I've pissed off so far..
- Pb75 — sorry for moving your articles!
- No worries, mate. It's all sorted now. Keep up the good work. —Pb75 06:19, 24 Mar 2006 (PST)
New userpage
he, did I set a new trend for super-duper userpages? :P Anyway, the links to jupix.info don't seem to work. --Vaarscha 09:12, 24 Mar 2006 (PST)
New primitive images
All the new primitive PNGs that you have uploaded are black and white, with the smallest degree of flat-shading. Is this a problem with my browser's PNG rendering or are they meant to look this way? Without textures on the brushes, it's pretty hard to discern the three dimensionality of the shape; you can only distinguish the silouhette. Giles 07:19, 1 Apr 2006 (PST)
Happy Birthday
Happy birthday. :) Giles 01:33, 26 Apr 2006 (PDT)
Clean up
When you add the clean up tag to an article, you should post something on the discussion page why you have done so. A clean up can mean too many things, just posting the tag is no big help to a potential editor or the author of the page. --Vaarscha 01:35, 29 Apr 2006 (PDT)
- Done. Sorry. Jupix 05:45, 29 Apr 2006 (PDT)
Convert WAD to VMT
I moved this page back here because it's the way Hammer lists it in the file menu—ts2do 21:37, 1 May 2006 (PDT)
Anchor redirect
Redirecting to an anchor does not work. Nothing we can do. See Wikipedia:Help:Redirect#A redirect to an anchor. --AndrewNeo 09:50, 5 May 2006 (PDT)
Mod
Are you currently working at a mod or just some freelance mapping? --dutchmega
thanks
thanks for the advice on proper posting, i would have never realised otherwise. i cant see beyond the edge of england you see, so thanks for the advice! game4ever
Cleanup Tag
If you are putting the Cleanup tag on an article, please remember to leave a message on the article's talk page saying why (even if it's fairly self-evident). --Giles 05:50, 11 May 2006 (PDT)
TutPOV at Client_Command_by_Trigger_proximity
Hey Jupix, I saw (after 5 seconds) that you've made some changes, and a note, at my mini-tutorial about Client_Command_by_Trigger_proximity... I altered it, sometimes a little, sometimes a little more... Could you look at it again, and make a note on my userpage on what I should change even more? Thanks in advance! --CrabbyData 02:48, 14 May 2006 (PDT)