Talk:They Hunger: Lost Souls

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Grr. Arg. —Cargo Cult (info, talk) 12:37, 15 Jan 2007 (PST)

Why do you say that, Adam? Kausill 12:16, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Rumors say Neil Manke may be dead

If you're wondering if this mod will be released at all, rumors on Shacknews [1] suggest that Neil Manke (the head level designer who also made They Hunger series) may be dying or dead. (I haven't found anything else about Manke on the net. Valve apparently hasn't heard from him either.)

"Its been a while since we've heard news from They Hunger Lost Souls and guess what - I know Einar Saukas (one of the creators together with Manke) and he just confessed that Manke is very ill in Canada and the game has been jeopardized. Dunno whats gonna happen now" - VISOR103 May 08, 2009

"I moved from Saskatoon a few months ago, but I did manage to meet and talk to Manke in early December (2008). I was working on a HL2 mod at that time and I was interested in his opinions. I can't say for sure if he was ill, but he did look very pale." - cool_canuckian May 08, 2009

Mankes email doesn't work. (The mail cannot be delivered.) Checking the official homepage for Black Widow Games, their Copyright ran out 2009.

They only thing speaking against Manke being dead, is that it would deserve some kind of mention.

Some kind of public records [2] lists a Neil Manke at this adress: R0C 2L0 Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada. If anyone happens to live up there, you can go look for him. --MossyBucket (formerly Andreasen) 05:18, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I feel like we shouldn't be posting people's addresses publicly and asking others to go to their houses. Thelonesoldier 10:39, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
I understand, but these are my reasons:
  • There's a lot of people who'd like to know what happened to both him and the mod. (They Hunger is legendary among Half-Life Singleplayer fans.)
  • It would count as journalism for the wiki. (I don't care about his personal life. I care about whether he's alive or dead, and how this affects the mod.)
  • In case of his death, this would allow sites to write memorials.
  • There doesn't seem to be a better way (though mailing one of the collegues would be an alternative option).
  • The mysterious disappearance along with the silence of his collegues really begs the question. (If they were concerned with people trying to seek the truth, they could have told us.)
  • You could use that adress to get a phone number from that adress instead (though I can't do that online). Also, if Manke has made any kind of contract with Valve, it could be in their interest to contact him through this adress (so that they would know what to bundle with Episode 3, for instance).
  • The records are public information.
--MossyBucket (formerly Andreasen) 11:10, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
That seems way over the top to me. For now, what we can and should do is classify the mod as dead. If Manke himself appears and says otherwise, we can change it; but with this many years of no information there's no reason to assume the mod is being worked on. Thelonesoldier 02:28, 2 February 2011 (UTC)