User talk:Fitzroy doll
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Hi.. Just suggesting that you use the preview button to prevent cluttering the recent changes list. Jupix 13:17, 18 Apr 2006 (PDT)
Entity category organisation
Hi, I was the one that removed the Npc manhack from the entity category. The reason I removed it was all NPC's are entities and thus NPC could therefore be a subcategory of Category:Entities. What was the specific reason you wanted it added back? --brandished 19:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Please do not do this. The Category:Entities page is among the most useful in this wiki, as it provides a fast index to all Source entities. It's fine to create subgroups such as NPCs (that's what the Categories are for), but the categories are not mutually exclusive and should not be treated as such. --Fitzroy doll 19:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- To be more specific, how is the Category:Entities page useful to you? In what situation or for what use do you need to see all entities for all Source based game in one giant list? This is what I'm not understanding, I can't think of any use I, myself, would have for a list of that type type, nor could I see it being helpful to anyone else. --brandished 01:15, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's useful to me on a regular basis as an index of Source entities, so that I can go straight to the page I need, but that is beside the point. Categories are not folders - a page can and should exist in several at the same time. Furthermore, it's bad form to make unilateral changes like this without discussing it on the relevant page first. If you don't want to revert your Category edits I will do it.--Fitzroy doll 09:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- There is a search function you know. --TomEdwards 09:17, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes I'm aware of that. It's faster, however, to just go to the 3 page index and find the entity you need. In what way is this controversial?--Fitzroy doll 10:29, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- There is a seperate list of entities that lists them by type and name, it's much easier to use if the page is kept up to date. While having entities in both a general category and a specific category should be done, i personally prefer using the page that lists them by type and name. Solokiller 12:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, but the problem with that list, as has been pointed out in the discussion is that the list of entities is incomplete and is arranged according to arbitrary categories. Furthermore, it requires someone to keep it up to date, which isn't always being done. The "Entities" Category tag is a simpler and more effective solution, as it only requires a small edit on each entity page to keep the list of entities up to date.
- There is a seperate list of entities that lists them by type and name, it's much easier to use if the page is kept up to date. While having entities in both a general category and a specific category should be done, i personally prefer using the page that lists them by type and name. Solokiller 12:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes I'm aware of that. It's faster, however, to just go to the 3 page index and find the entity you need. In what way is this controversial?--Fitzroy doll 10:29, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- There is a search function you know. --TomEdwards 09:17, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's useful to me on a regular basis as an index of Source entities, so that I can go straight to the page I need, but that is beside the point. Categories are not folders - a page can and should exist in several at the same time. Furthermore, it's bad form to make unilateral changes like this without discussing it on the relevant page first. If you don't want to revert your Category edits I will do it.--Fitzroy doll 09:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- To be more specific, how is the Category:Entities page useful to you? In what situation or for what use do you need to see all entities for all Source based game in one giant list? This is what I'm not understanding, I can't think of any use I, myself, would have for a list of that type type, nor could I see it being helpful to anyone else. --brandished 01:15, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- The rule has always been this: if the article refers to an "Entity" (as opposed to a tutorial or other information), then the article gets the "Entity" Category tag. It can then be sub-categorised according to the game in which it is available, whether it is an npc, a brush entity, a node and so on, but everything is an entity first. This was working fine up until the recent edits.--Fitzroy doll 13:32, 25 March 2009 (UTC)