Talk:Map Obfuscator
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I can understand why you made this, and it's not that I have a problem with people protecting their creations, but I think these sort of programs tend to create a negative atmosphere. Sharing of information is an important part of keeping the Source mapping community alive, and it's a shame that for so many people, "sharing" is synonymous to stealing and VMEX'ing. More than anything, it's a shame that these kinds of programs have to exist in the first place. --Msleeper 09:04, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I strongly agree with this sentiment. Pilk (talk) 12:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I made this at reepblue's request. People steal things a lot and recently there has been a huge spike in the amount of Portal content being stolen. I actually haven't used this on any of my maps, because I don't really care, but some people do and I'd like to give them the option if they so chose. --Omnicoder 19:00, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I try to make it a habit of releasing my VMFs either with the map or shortly after release, especially when I include something that's somewhat unique. If more people did things like that, it would create less of a "I made this now respect me" mindset and more of a "this was a good idea, look how I used it" mentality. Again, I'm not trying to say that people shouldn't get credit where credit is due, but if people took half the effort they put into "protecting" their creations and used it to spreading knowledge on how cool things are made, I think in the end everyone would benefit. --Msleeper 05:28, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- Эх, люди! А создание чисто карт в бсп с интересными вещами только вызовет ответный резонанс среди игроков и картостроителей. Вот вы говорите украдут, а вы знаете, что такое монополия? Билли тоже был подвергнут критике. Людям хочется видеть, как устроены те, или иные штуки и феньки, они хотят создавать ПОДОБНЫЕ! Замечу, создавать подобные произведения, то есть не воровать их, и делать в точь в точь. Многие картостроители, чтобы понять, как устроены вещи, которые они видят в игре, им просто необходимо взламывать чужие карты. Конечно, я не наблюдал на картах bsp защиту, так что это делает взлом всегда успешным. Ну почему людей охватывает жадность? Ответ ищите в себе. Поделиться с другими - и поделятся с вами. --]{o$Тя 17:49, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- No one is forcing you to use it. I don't even use it myself as I don't care if people want to decompile my maps. Some people wanted it and I have given them the option. Debating the morality of it isn't going to change the fact that some people don't want their work decompiled. --Omnicoder 20:04, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- The fact is some people will want their maps obfusticated and some won't, and there's no point in trying to convince everyone to share everything because that will never be universal. This discussion is hardly related to improving the Wiki, anyway. I'm curious though, does decompiling work well now? I remember if you decompiled an original GoldSRC map back in the day, the world brushes would all be chopped up to the point the map was uneditable. Thelonesoldier 22:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- No one is forcing you to use it. I don't even use it myself as I don't care if people want to decompile my maps. Some people wanted it and I have given them the option. Debating the morality of it isn't going to change the fact that some people don't want their work decompiled. --Omnicoder 20:04, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- Эх, люди! А создание чисто карт в бсп с интересными вещами только вызовет ответный резонанс среди игроков и картостроителей. Вот вы говорите украдут, а вы знаете, что такое монополия? Билли тоже был подвергнут критике. Людям хочется видеть, как устроены те, или иные штуки и феньки, они хотят создавать ПОДОБНЫЕ! Замечу, создавать подобные произведения, то есть не воровать их, и делать в точь в точь. Многие картостроители, чтобы понять, как устроены вещи, которые они видят в игре, им просто необходимо взламывать чужие карты. Конечно, я не наблюдал на картах bsp защиту, так что это делает взлом всегда успешным. Ну почему людей охватывает жадность? Ответ ищите в себе. Поделиться с другими - и поделятся с вами. --]{o$Тя 17:49, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- I try to make it a habit of releasing my VMFs either with the map or shortly after release, especially when I include something that's somewhat unique. If more people did things like that, it would create less of a "I made this now respect me" mindset and more of a "this was a good idea, look how I used it" mentality. Again, I'm not trying to say that people shouldn't get credit where credit is due, but if people took half the effort they put into "protecting" their creations and used it to spreading knowledge on how cool things are made, I think in the end everyone would benefit. --Msleeper 05:28, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- I made this at reepblue's request. People steal things a lot and recently there has been a huge spike in the amount of Portal content being stolen. I actually haven't used this on any of my maps, because I don't really care, but some people do and I'd like to give them the option if they so chose. --Omnicoder 19:00, 18 September 2010 (UTC)