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Is the ASCII / English only character requirement (no "ط" or "ﭾ") for page names still in effect with the updates to the VDC? --[[User:Brandished|brandished]] 23:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Is the ASCII / English only character requirement (no "ط" or "ﭾ") for page names still in effect with the updates to the VDC? --[[User:Brandished|brandished]] 23:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
: Double-byte / non-ASCII characters ''should'' work correctly with the new server, but we need to run some more tests first. So for now, the restriction should probably stay in place to make sure we avoid data loss. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 00:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Revision as of 17:06, 22 January 2009

Post any questions or issues with the recent site upgrade here. You can click the (+) tab above to start a new discussion.

Be aware that the latest upgrade is only a first step, and other changes and improvements to the site are in development.

Steam links

No need for a template! (Incidentally, what's up with the design of the Steam icon? It's different...) --TomEdwards 23:43, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Either way works, but a template is a little more flexible. The template offers the chance to easily change, replace, or extend the syntax of the tags down the road. --JeffLane 02:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and the icon is different because the standard icon was a little too large and heavy to be included inside blocks of text. --JeffLane 02:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Site icon

There's a nice Source favicon on its official site. It'd be great to have it added to VDC. --TomEdwards 00:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

We like how that icon turned out, too. :) The first part of the upgrade is focused purely on functionality. There are a number of visual changes planned down the road, of which this is one. --JeffLane 02:32, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Allow SVG upload

SVG's primary use here would probably be for logos (Valve's, Source's, HL2's, etc). It certainly wouldn't do any harm... --TomEdwards 13:52, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

SVG should have already been enabled. We'll investigate. --JeffLane 20:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Simple merge error in the upgrade script. Should work now. --JeffLane 20:40, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Getting an error after committing the upload: "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver." --TomEdwards 22:22, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Work on this issue is in progress. --JeffLane 03:54, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I re-disabled SVG. There are some rendering problems. It should be able to be re-added after some other things get worked on. --JeffLane 06:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Images

Thumbnail rendering

I didn't see this in the release notes, but I noticed the image scaler code was updated and PNGs can now be thumbnailed without the horrible artifacts, very nice. But, it seems it was a two edged sword as detailed GIF's are now even more mangled after thumbnailing. For example, Old VS New. --brandished 22:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

PNG is a generally more useful format than GIF, but we'll look into it. --JeffLane 04:29, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Horizontal tiling of thumbnailed images

Another possible issue is the arrangement of multiple thumbnailed images, they are now forced to lie vertically were they used to be horizontal. For an example, the Navigation_Meshes article in the new WiKi format VS the old format. The issue does not show up when the caption frame is removed, but then the text summaries don't work. They can still be forced to lie horizontally with table formatting, but this may break page formatting on smaller screen resolutions. --brandished 22:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

We'll look into the issue. It's possible that the thumbnailed images will have to be done differently going forward. Gallery tags are a possibility, but they are not as flexible. --JeffLane 04:29, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Short answer: fixed. Longer answer: This is actually a bug that existed in the old version because floating left images should not stack horizontally. The bug was "reintroduced" until a better and more permanent solution can be found. So no more action is needed at the current time. --JeffLane 01:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
That makes sense, I haven't had much experience with the caption and frame options MediaWiki uses. I have noticed a lot of wasted horizontal space inside the official Wikimedia Foundation's projects. I've looked around several WiKi sites, but haven't found any good solutions to this that allow for wrapping (other then the "bug" here at the VDC). --brandished 14:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

"Getting help"

The "Getting help" link on the left-hand menu navigates to help on using the Wiki itself. Its name doesn't do a great job of reflecting that. --TomEdwards 19:12, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Brush entity

I noticed Brush entity redirects to "Category: Brush entities" which seems to be broken and cannot be created. I'm not sure what's causing the problem, the only thing I can think of might be a possible word filter? I was able to create Category: Brush entity without any trouble, so if it's unfixable, the articles in the category could be moved there. --brandished 04:11, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

This was a capitalization error on the Brush entity page. The category already existed as Category: Brush Entities (capital "E"). --JeffLane 05:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't think I ever would have thought of that. I saw the note on the release notes about links being case sensitive, but not article creation. If I ever finish my section on templates, I'll add a note about the case sensitivity to the Help:Editing as well (if someone else doesn't 1st). --brandished 23:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I believe the confusion is specific to Category page creation, because unlike standard pages, it still lists the contents of the category at the bottom if the page is incorrectly linked. Incorrectly-linked standard pages just lead to a blank page. --JeffLane 00:00, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Special character limitation

Is the ASCII / English only character requirement (no "ط" or "ﭾ") for page names still in effect with the updates to the VDC? --brandished 23:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Double-byte / non-ASCII characters should work correctly with the new server, but we need to run some more tests first. So for now, the restriction should probably stay in place to make sure we avoid data loss. --JeffLane 00:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)