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I really like the language bar with the flags of all available docs at the top right, but what I really don't like is that the doc language defaults to the client's language even though a doc in the client's language does not exist. It even becomes ridiculous when the page uses {{code|style=2|<nowiki>{{doc|nolang=1}}</nowiki>}}, such that you get a non-existent doc and you don't even get the languages bar to switch to english. Please fix? --[[User:Popcorn|Popcorn]] ([[User talk:Popcorn|talk]]) 18:26, 23 Jan 2023

:Fixed. Actually, I was just thinking about doing this. The thing is, I'm currently working on another template that will probably get rid of 90% of the mess with languages, both in templates and documentation. If everything works, the {{code|style=1|{{param|suf}}}} parameter will no longer be needed anywhere. And I also removed the {{code|style=2|nolang}} parameter. I don't even remember why I added it. --[[User:Max34 |Max34 ]] ([[User talk:Max34 |talk]]) 19:39, 23 Jan 2023

:There is a problem that the template can't load the documentation of default language when the translations don't exist and using the {{code|style=1|{{param|content}}}} parameter. Please add support for the parameter. --[[User:1416006136|1416006136]] ([[User talk:1416006136|talk]]) 21:52, 23 Jan 2023

==The buttons and message box can not work correctly==
There is a problem in the template that when your language is English, the Creating button on the right top and an empty message box before the documentation will be displayed whether the documentation exists. --[[User:1416006136|1416006136]] ([[User talk:1416006136|talk]]) 11:36, 21 Feb 2023 (UTC)

:Unless move the English documentation to {{Code|…/doc/en}}. --[[User:1416006136|1416006136]] ([[User talk:1416006136|talk]]) 15:55, 21 Feb 2023 (UTC)

:The problem has solved by adding new parameter, {{code|style=1|{{param|default-none}}}} to {{code|style=2|<nowiki>{{uselang}}</nowiki>}}.}} --[[User:1416006136|1416006136]] ([[User talk:1416006136|talk]]) 16:17, 21 Feb 2023

::It was worth just rolling back the change from {{code|style=2|<nowiki>{{uilang}}</nowiki>}} to {{code|style=2|<nowiki>{{uselang}}</nowiki>}}. In any case, this is not important, since it is planned to switch from this template to the original template {{code|style=2|<nowiki>{{documentation}}</nowiki>}}. Everything will work differently in it, so there will be no need for the {{code|style=1|{{param|default-none}}}} parameter in {{code|style=2|<nowiki>{{uselang}}</nowiki>}}. --[[User:Max34|Max34]] ([[User talk:Max34|talk]]) 16:28, 21 Feb 2023

:::Any changes in plans? --[[User:Amicdict|Amicdict]] ([[User talk:Amicdict|talk]]) 18:43, 4 Apr 2023 (UTC)

::The new design of {{tl|Doc}} looks good. But it will take some time to make these changes. --[[User:1416006136|1416006136]] ([[User talk:1416006136|talk]]) 18:18, 8 Apr 2023

== {{Bug|Extra slash "/" on "Template:(Page)/doc/" does not exist.}} ==

See image below.<br> [[File:Bug-Doc-template.png|512px]]<br>Beside, docs page that are created with "{{code|/doc/}}" instead of "{{code|/doc}}", example: {{code|Template:YouTube/doc/}} instead of {{code|Template:YouTube/doc}} would cause the {{t|Doc/subpage}} (documentation subpage) notice to not show up at all, unless it is "{{code|doc}}", without slash after it. --[[Kr0tchet]] ([[User talk:Kr0tchet|talk]]) 14:35, 29 Aug 2023

That's related to its working principle. {{tl2|Doc/subpage}} will try to check if the {{Code|<nowiki>{{SUBPAGENAME}}</nowiki>}} is {{Code|doc}}, or language suffixes ({{Code|en}}, {{Code|eo}}, {{Code|de}}, ...). {{Code|about}}, {{Code|preload}} are also valid value.
*If {{Code|<nowiki>{{SUBPAGENAME}}</nowiki>}} is valid value, {{tl2|Doc/subpage}} will display the notice.
*If it is not, the template will display nothing. --[[User:1416006136|1416006136]] ([[User talk:1416006136|talk]]) 17:24, 29 Aug 2023

As for the message box with a slash after the link, that may be a bug. <s>You can use the button "Create" to the right top to create page.</s> --[[User:1416006136|1416006136]] ([[User talk:1416006136|talk]]) 17:43, 29 Aug 2023

The bug should be fixed now. I have changed the parameter {{Code|<nowiki>{{{pref}}}</nowiki>}} of {{tl2|Uselang}}. --[[User:1416006136|1416006136]] ([[User talk:1416006136|talk]]) 18:22, 29 Aug 2023

Yea it's looking good now. --[[User:Kr0tchet|Kr0tchet]] ([[User talk:Kr0tchet|talk]]) 11:36, 30 Aug 2023
==ULF usage question==
Why is <code><nowiki>{{ulf|all-lang=1}}</nowiki></code> added? not every template has translations for every language yet, and it should be up to the page to specify what languages are used. If anything, the same logic used to detect what language translations are used in the drop-down should be used in ULF as well to show the correct flags, at least. -[[User:Equalizer5118|Equalizer]], aka the better pickaxe ([[User talk:Equalizer5118|talk]]) 11:33, 23 August 2024 (PDT)
:I added it to quickly be able to preview the template in any language when I encountered bunch of templates that didn't have the language flags at all and I had to add them manually. Not a best solution and I still planned to put it on some better place later so it doesn't interfere with manually picked ulf but didn't get to do it yet. Can't really detect what strings are available automatically unless string subpages had such information in the #switch and it's also good to have all the flags somewhere quickly clickable on the page --[[User:Nescius|Nescius]] ([[User talk:Nescius|talk]]) 13:29, 23 August 2024 (PDT)
: Added 'String info' string to [[Template:Translate]] and [[Template:Doc]] string pages so that the translation progress can be easily retrieved from the string page. Maybe something like that would be fine. --[[User:Nescius|Nescius]] ([[User talk:Nescius|talk]]) 14:08, 23 August 2024 (PDT)