Talk:TF2/Making an Arena map

im going to decompile lumberyard in a bit and ill post here what i find. looks like you've got most of it so no need for me to post

Great job, i'll look for some relevant pictures if i can be bothered.

I'm done with it now. Cleaned it up a bit so it's easier to read. If you need any help, contact me at Acegikmo_Trackmania@hotmail.com --Acegikmo 14:37, 20 Aug 2008 (PDT)

This is the most terrible guide I've ever read, it needs some serious rewriting to format to the standards of the wiki.--Gear 17:09, 20 Aug 2008 (PDT)

Sadly I agree. Gear, shall we clean things up in a bit then? --Msleeper 17:32, 20 Aug 2008 (PDT)

The reason why I deleted his guide was there is no REAL experience behind this at all. Arena has only been out for one day, so it needs the technical touch to it, which no one can provide yet Until we really get into making an actual arena map that kicks ass. Also, "Let's" Sleeper--Gear 17:46, 20 Aug 2008 (PDT)

Deletion agreed, history tells me the tutorial was terrible. Again, we're making tutorials here, which means it's a text containing "a general direction to making xxx maps", not "THIS is how you make xxx maps". --Baliame ^(talk) 17:51, 20 Aug 2008 (PDT)

Yeah sleeper is gonna make a Arena map in the Meantime, as may I, but I'd like to get some real Arena success from even other mappers before getting a detailed guide here.--Gear 18:00, 20 Aug 2008 (PDT)

Err are we overreacting to this? Some people (i.e. me, a few hours ago) might just want the entity setup information... Which is what the article provided, even if it needed some better formatting. --Campaignjunkie ^(talk) 20:27, 20 Aug 2008 (PDT)

First of all, I didn't make the tutorial for people who haven't made TF2 maps before. I assumed you already knew the basics. Secondly, it was made so you would get started with your maps as quickly as possible. But sure, rewrite it if you want. And lastly, I've never used wiki formatting, this was my first time really, so take it easy. I'll clean it up. --Acegikmo 22:34, 20 Aug 2008 (PDT)

Done cleaning. It's alot better now. --Acegikmo 23:37, 20 Aug 2008 (PDT)

I was going more over to rewriting it later, when we have alot more information about arena, but that may come later. We have too many tuts now based on just entity setups, sure thats nice, but god wheres the love and thought that goes into the real back story of a gameplay mode.--Gear 04:29, 21 Aug 2008 (PDT)

I might write some more about the design/layout of Arena maps later --Acegikmo 07:17, 21 Aug 2008 (PDT)