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This is more confusing than I expected! | This is more confusing than I expected! | ||
From '''ai_hull.cpp''' I got this vector data, which i have tried to interpret into box dimensions. The first pair of coords seem likely to describe the collision hull, but the second set of coords ... ? : | * From '''ai_hull.cpp''' I got this vector data, which i have tried to interpret into box dimensions. The first pair of coords seem likely to describe the collision hull, but the second set of coords ... ? : | ||
Ground Nav | Ground Nav Hull-1 vectors Hull-2 vectors Hull-1 dimensions Hull-2 dimensions | ||
* Tiny_Hull (-12,-12, 0), (12, 12, 24), (-12,-12, 0), (12, 12, 24) = 24 x 24 x 24 | * Tiny_Hull (-12,-12, 0), (12, 12, 24), (-12,-12, 0), (12, 12, 24) = 24 x 24 x 24 == 24 x 24 x 24 | ||
* Human_Hull (-13,-13, 0), (13, 13, 72), ( -8, -8, 0), ( 8, 8, 72) = 26 x 26 x 72 &/ 16 x 16 x 72 | * Human_Hull (-13,-13, 0), (13, 13, 72), ( -8, -8, 0), ( 8, 8, 72) = 26 x 26 x 72 &/ 16 x 16 x 72 | ||
* Wide_Human_Hull (-15,-15, 0), (15, 15, 72), (-10,-10, 0), (10, 10, 72) = 30 x 30 x 72 &/ 20 x 20 x 72 | * Wide_Human_Hull (-15,-15, 0), (15, 15, 72), (-10,-10, 0), (10, 10, 72) = 30 x 30 x 72 &/ 20 x 20 x 72 | ||
* Medium_Hull (-16,-16, 0), (16, 16, 64), ( -8, -8, 0), ( 8, 8, 64) = 32 x 32 x 64 &/ 16 x 16 x 64 | * Medium_Hull (-16,-16, 0), (16, 16, 64), ( -8, -8, 0), ( 8, 8, 64) = 32 x 32 x 64 &/ 16 x 16 x 64 | ||
* Medium_Tall_Hull (-18,-18, 0), (18, 18, 100), (-12,-12, 0), (12, 12, 100) = 36 x 36 x 100 &/ 24 x 24 x 100 | * Medium_Tall_Hull (-18,-18, 0), (18, 18, 100), (-12,-12, 0), (12, 12, 100) = 36 x 36 x 100 &/ 24 x 24 x 100 | ||
* Wide_Short_Hull (-35,-35, 0), (35, 35, 32), (-20,-20, 0), (20, 20, 32) | * Wide_Short_Hull (-35,-35, 0), (35, 35, 32), (-20,-20, 0), (20, 20, 32) = 70 x 70 x 32 &/ 40 x 40 x 32 | ||
* Large_Hull (-40,-40, 0), (40, 40, 100), (-40,-40, 0), (40, 40, 100) = 80 x 80 x 100 | * Large_Hull (-40,-40, 0), (40, 40, 100), (-40,-40, 0), (40, 40, 100) = 80 x 80 x 100 == 80 x 80 x 100 | ||
Air Nav | Air Nav | ||
* Tiny_Centered_Hull ( -8, -8, -4), ( 8, 8, | * Tiny_Centered_Hull ( -8, -8, -4), ( 8, 8, 4), ( -8, -8, -4), ( 8, 8, 4) = 16 x 16 x 8 == 16 x 16 x 8 | ||
* Small_Centered_Hull (-20,-20,-20), (20, 20, 20), (-12,-12,-12), (12, 12, 12) = 40 x 40 x 40 &/ 24 x 24 x 24 | * Small_Centered_Hull (-20,-20,-20), (20, 20, 20), (-12,-12,-12), (12, 12, 12) = 40 x 40 x 40 &/ 24 x 24 x 24 | ||
* Large_Centered_Hull (-38,-38,-38), (38, 38, 38), (-30,-30,-30), (30, 30, 30) = 76 x 76 x 76 &/ 60 x 60 x 60 | * Large_Centered_Hull (-38,-38,-38), (38, 38, 38), (-30,-30,-30), (30, 30, 30) = 76 x 76 x 76 &/ 60 x 60 x 60 | ||
note: all NPC Hulls have a square footprint with the origin at the centre = NPC's centre of horizontal rotation. (why not use a cylinder?) | note: all NPC Hulls have a square footprint with the origin at the centre = NPC's centre of horizontal rotation. (why not use a cylinder?) | ||
note: Ground nav NPC Hulls tower above the origin, whereas Air-nav (_Centered_Hull) hull is half above and half below its origin. | note: Ground nav NPC Hulls tower above the origin, whereas Air-nav (_Centered_Hull) hull is half above and half below its origin. | ||
note: the mysterious Hull-2 always fits inside Hull-1, and shares the same axes of symmetry as Hull-1. | |||
Notice also that the min pathway for human_hull is 30 wide by 73 high, so there's some factor other than hull size involved. Even more bizarrely, '''npc_combine.cpp''' uses the human_hull, but it's min pathway is wider than other humans tested; 32 wide by 73 high. I'm thinking this is not a simple ''add 1 unit for friction factor'' ... ? --[[User:Beeswax|Beeswax]] 10:53, 7 Mar 2008 (PST) | * Notice also that the min pathway for human_hull is 30 wide by 73 high, so there's some factor other than hull size involved. Even more bizarrely, '''npc_combine.cpp''' uses the human_hull, but it's min pathway is wider than other humans tested; 32 wide by 73 high. I'm thinking this is not a simple ''add 1 unit for friction factor'' ... ? --[[User:Beeswax|Beeswax]] 10:53, 7 Mar 2008 (PST) | ||
:I'm using the beta SDK code, and that enum now looks like this: | |||
ai_hull_t Human_Hull (bits_HUMAN_HULL, "HUMAN_HULL", Vector(-13,-13, 0), Vector(13, 13, 72), Vector(-8,-8, 0), Vector( 8, 8, 72) ); | |||
ai_hull_t Small_Centered_Hull (bits_SMALL_CENTERED_HULL, "SMALL_CENTERED_HULL", Vector(-20,-20, -20), Vector(20, 20, 20), Vector(-12,-12,-12), Vector(12, 12, 12) ); | |||
ai_hull_t Wide_Human_Hull (bits_WIDE_HUMAN_HULL, "WIDE_HUMAN_HULL", Vector(-15,-15, 0), Vector(15, 15, 72), Vector(-10,-10, 0), Vector(10, 10, 72) ); | |||
ai_hull_t Tiny_Hull (bits_TINY_HULL, "TINY_HULL", Vector(-12,-12, 0), Vector(12, 12, 24), Vector(-12,-12, 0), Vector(12, 12, 24) ); | |||
ai_hull_t Wide_Short_Hull (bits_WIDE_SHORT_HULL, "WIDE_SHORT_HULL", Vector(-35,-35, 0), Vector(35, 35, 32), Vector(-20,-20, 0), Vector(20, 20, 32) ); | |||
ai_hull_t Medium_Hull (bits_MEDIUM_HULL, "MEDIUM_HULL", Vector(-16,-16, 0), Vector(16, 16, 64), Vector(-8,-8, 0), Vector(8, 8, 64) ); | |||
ai_hull_t Tiny_Centered_Hull (bits_TINY_CENTERED_HULL, "TINY_CENTERED_HULL", Vector(-8,-8, -4), Vector(8, 8, 4), Vector(-8,-8, -4), Vector( 8, 8, 4) ); | |||
ai_hull_t Large_Hull (bits_LARGE_HULL, "LARGE_HULL", Vector(-40,-40, 0), Vector(40, 40, 100), Vector(-40,-40, 0), Vector(40, 40, 100) ); | |||
ai_hull_t Large_Centered_Hull (bits_LARGE_CENTERED_HULL, "LARGE_CENTERED_HULL", Vector(-38,-38, -38), Vector(38, 38, 38), Vector(-30,-30,-30), Vector(30, 30, 30) ); | |||
ai_hull_t Medium_Tall_Hull (bits_MEDIUM_TALL_HULL, "MEDIUM_TALL_HULL", Vector(-18,-18, 0), Vector(18, 18, 100), Vector(-12,-12, 0), Vector(12, 12, 100) ); | |||
:Which is a little easier to understand. :-) --[[user:TomEdwards|TomEdwards]] 11:58, 7 Mar 2008 (PST) | |||
:I should elaborate: the four co-ordinate values in that code define the four points of the bounding box. --[[user:TomEdwards|TomEdwards]] 12:04, 7 Mar 2008 (PST) | |||
:: I'm using the same source but I edited the quoted text to emphasise relevant information . At first I thought as you say, 4 points = 4 corners, but a right-angled box has 8 corners and only needs 2 coordinates/vectors to define it. Notice that for ''Large_Hull'', ''Tiny_Hull'' and ''Tiny_Centered_Hull'' the second pair of coordinates are identical to the first pair ... they must therefore represent 2 boxes co-occupying the same space. --[[User:Beeswax|Beeswax]] 13:09, 7 Mar 2008 (PST) | |||
* ModelViewer shows 2 'bounding' boxes, labelled '''Movement''' and '''Seq.Boxes'''. Neither consistently correspond to the ai_hull data listed here ... Seq Boxes appears to display the RenderBox for a particular animation sequence. --[[User:Beeswax|Beeswax]] 13:28, 7 Mar 2008 (PST) | |||
Latest revision as of 13:41, 18 April 2008
Dimensional Data
This is more confusing than I expected!
- From ai_hull.cpp I got this vector data, which i have tried to interpret into box dimensions. The first pair of coords seem likely to describe the collision hull, but the second set of coords ... ? :
Ground Nav Hull-1 vectors Hull-2 vectors Hull-1 dimensions Hull-2 dimensions * Tiny_Hull (-12,-12, 0), (12, 12, 24), (-12,-12, 0), (12, 12, 24) = 24 x 24 x 24 == 24 x 24 x 24 * Human_Hull (-13,-13, 0), (13, 13, 72), ( -8, -8, 0), ( 8, 8, 72) = 26 x 26 x 72 &/ 16 x 16 x 72 * Wide_Human_Hull (-15,-15, 0), (15, 15, 72), (-10,-10, 0), (10, 10, 72) = 30 x 30 x 72 &/ 20 x 20 x 72 * Medium_Hull (-16,-16, 0), (16, 16, 64), ( -8, -8, 0), ( 8, 8, 64) = 32 x 32 x 64 &/ 16 x 16 x 64 * Medium_Tall_Hull (-18,-18, 0), (18, 18, 100), (-12,-12, 0), (12, 12, 100) = 36 x 36 x 100 &/ 24 x 24 x 100 * Wide_Short_Hull (-35,-35, 0), (35, 35, 32), (-20,-20, 0), (20, 20, 32) = 70 x 70 x 32 &/ 40 x 40 x 32 * Large_Hull (-40,-40, 0), (40, 40, 100), (-40,-40, 0), (40, 40, 100) = 80 x 80 x 100 == 80 x 80 x 100 Air Nav * Tiny_Centered_Hull ( -8, -8, -4), ( 8, 8, 4), ( -8, -8, -4), ( 8, 8, 4) = 16 x 16 x 8 == 16 x 16 x 8 * Small_Centered_Hull (-20,-20,-20), (20, 20, 20), (-12,-12,-12), (12, 12, 12) = 40 x 40 x 40 &/ 24 x 24 x 24 * Large_Centered_Hull (-38,-38,-38), (38, 38, 38), (-30,-30,-30), (30, 30, 30) = 76 x 76 x 76 &/ 60 x 60 x 60 note: all NPC Hulls have a square footprint with the origin at the centre = NPC's centre of horizontal rotation. (why not use a cylinder?) note: Ground nav NPC Hulls tower above the origin, whereas Air-nav (_Centered_Hull) hull is half above and half below its origin. note: the mysterious Hull-2 always fits inside Hull-1, and shares the same axes of symmetry as Hull-1.
- Notice also that the min pathway for human_hull is 30 wide by 73 high, so there's some factor other than hull size involved. Even more bizarrely, npc_combine.cpp uses the human_hull, but it's min pathway is wider than other humans tested; 32 wide by 73 high. I'm thinking this is not a simple add 1 unit for friction factor ... ? --Beeswax 10:53, 7 Mar 2008 (PST)
- I'm using the beta SDK code, and that enum now looks like this:
ai_hull_t Human_Hull (bits_HUMAN_HULL, "HUMAN_HULL", Vector(-13,-13, 0), Vector(13, 13, 72), Vector(-8,-8, 0), Vector( 8, 8, 72) ); ai_hull_t Small_Centered_Hull (bits_SMALL_CENTERED_HULL, "SMALL_CENTERED_HULL", Vector(-20,-20, -20), Vector(20, 20, 20), Vector(-12,-12,-12), Vector(12, 12, 12) ); ai_hull_t Wide_Human_Hull (bits_WIDE_HUMAN_HULL, "WIDE_HUMAN_HULL", Vector(-15,-15, 0), Vector(15, 15, 72), Vector(-10,-10, 0), Vector(10, 10, 72) ); ai_hull_t Tiny_Hull (bits_TINY_HULL, "TINY_HULL", Vector(-12,-12, 0), Vector(12, 12, 24), Vector(-12,-12, 0), Vector(12, 12, 24) ); ai_hull_t Wide_Short_Hull (bits_WIDE_SHORT_HULL, "WIDE_SHORT_HULL", Vector(-35,-35, 0), Vector(35, 35, 32), Vector(-20,-20, 0), Vector(20, 20, 32) ); ai_hull_t Medium_Hull (bits_MEDIUM_HULL, "MEDIUM_HULL", Vector(-16,-16, 0), Vector(16, 16, 64), Vector(-8,-8, 0), Vector(8, 8, 64) ); ai_hull_t Tiny_Centered_Hull (bits_TINY_CENTERED_HULL, "TINY_CENTERED_HULL", Vector(-8,-8, -4), Vector(8, 8, 4), Vector(-8,-8, -4), Vector( 8, 8, 4) ); ai_hull_t Large_Hull (bits_LARGE_HULL, "LARGE_HULL", Vector(-40,-40, 0), Vector(40, 40, 100), Vector(-40,-40, 0), Vector(40, 40, 100) ); ai_hull_t Large_Centered_Hull (bits_LARGE_CENTERED_HULL, "LARGE_CENTERED_HULL", Vector(-38,-38, -38), Vector(38, 38, 38), Vector(-30,-30,-30), Vector(30, 30, 30) ); ai_hull_t Medium_Tall_Hull (bits_MEDIUM_TALL_HULL, "MEDIUM_TALL_HULL", Vector(-18,-18, 0), Vector(18, 18, 100), Vector(-12,-12, 0), Vector(12, 12, 100) );
- Which is a little easier to understand. :-) --TomEdwards 11:58, 7 Mar 2008 (PST)
- I should elaborate: the four co-ordinate values in that code define the four points of the bounding box. --TomEdwards 12:04, 7 Mar 2008 (PST)
- I'm using the same source but I edited the quoted text to emphasise relevant information . At first I thought as you say, 4 points = 4 corners, but a right-angled box has 8 corners and only needs 2 coordinates/vectors to define it. Notice that for Large_Hull, Tiny_Hull and Tiny_Centered_Hull the second pair of coordinates are identical to the first pair ... they must therefore represent 2 boxes co-occupying the same space. --Beeswax 13:09, 7 Mar 2008 (PST)
- ModelViewer shows 2 'bounding' boxes, labelled Movement and Seq.Boxes. Neither consistently correspond to the ai_hull data listed here ... Seq Boxes appears to display the RenderBox for a particular animation sequence. --Beeswax 13:28, 7 Mar 2008 (PST)