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User permissions - could I be 'autoconfirmed'?

Hi there. I took some screenshots of some basic examples of Logic Gates in Puzzle Maker for use on this page, however I am unable to upload files as I am not in the 'autoconfirmed' user group. Are you able to add me to the autoconfirmed user group via Special:UserRights? RJackson 09:27, 13 May 2012 (PDT)

That is odd, you should already be a confirmed user. Have you set and authenticated your email address in your user preferences? It's under My preferences > User profile > E-mail options. --JeffLane 10:52, 14 May 2012 (PDT)

I have autoconfirm issue too, my email was authenticated at 25 December 2013 at 02:21 and yet i am not in the group and cannot upload. - - -Chocoportals 15:34, 16 March 2014 (PDT)

See "Problem uploading images" below for the requirements for uploading images. --JeffLane 18:43, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Images uploading

I have problem with images uploading. I have error: Could not rename file "/tmp/phpO78Nz6" to "public/a/a4/P2PM_glass.png". --Mehiller 11:09, 14 May 2012 (PDT)

Is this a new image? Try it again. In future, please use the Administrators' noticeboard for this kind of issue. --JeffLane 11:30, 14 May 2012 (PDT)

Puzzle Maker Page

Hi, Jeff. I was looking at improving the layout of the Puzzle Maker page and a thought struck me; right now the page is basically a hub for how-to content, but wouldn't it make more sense if the how-to stuff was moved to the category index to be more consistant with the rest of the wiki?

For example, the Hammer page only describes what Hammer is, along with a brief history. The actual level design how-to hub is on the Level Design category index (and the same goes for the Portal 2 Level Design category index.

Right now I'm playing with layouts in my sandbox; after discussing it with a few people, I really think it belongs on the category index. Keeping in mind that the 'wiki' link in the actual editor links directly to the Portal 2 Puzzle Maker page, I wanted to get your position (or even Yasser's) before I go moving things around. Cheers. --Nacimota ^{Talk | Contributions} 22:19, 22 May 2012 (PDT)

Seems reasonable, though consistent with the rest of the wiki is less important than what is effective. You will need to propose a plan for the existing page as it is the entry point and should not be a redirect. --JeffLane 13:51, 23 May 2012 (PDT)

Yeah, I had no plans on making it a redirect. What I figured we would have is a page describing the Puzzle Maker in a similar fashion to the page that describes Hammer, but perhaps with more detail. I was thinking at the top and bottom we could put something like "for help using the Puzzle Maker, see Category:Portal 2 Puzzle Maker", or something to that effect. --Nacimota ^{Talk | Contributions} 09:20, 24 May 2012 (PDT)

Page Organization Help

Excume but If you got a quick sec, I need a little help on organizing a tutorial that I'm working on. What could I do to simplify it? Alternative Multi-Stop Elevator --Kwp17pitts 18:18, 22 June 2012 (PDT)

How to become an autoconfirmed user

Hi, I'd like to write an article that require images but I can't upload them because I'm not an autoconfirmed user. What should I do to become one ? I already confirm my email adresse twice so the problem does not come from here ;)

New wave of spam

The latest bout of spam seems different than before, i got this message when i tried to flag a newly created spam page: User account "Renal Disease Diets" is not registered. Please check if you want to create/edit this page. What does this mean, exactly? Should these pages and users be tagged as usual? Solokiller 01:26, 6 September 2012 (PDT)

I think it's just because the spammer's created a User:Page instead of the pages they usually create. —Mattshu 07:31, 6 September 2012 (PDT)

That is correct. It's just a page created in the user namespace. Deleted. --JeffLane 12:45, 6 September 2012 (PDT)

Problem uploading images

I'm trying to upload an image to accompany a tutorial that I'm writing for creating a working radar mini-map in CS:GO. Yet everytime I try to upload the image by clicking "upload file" the page seems to refresh and my file doesn't appear on the list of uploaded wiki images. I am fairly new to uploading images. Am I doing anything wrong? --Nicky Da B 21:01, 29 July 2013 (PDT)

If it is giving an error message after you press the "Upload file" button, post it here. Also, to prevent vandalism and spam, your account needs to be confirmed for 5 days and have made 10 valid edits before images can be uploaded. --JeffLane 12:12, 30 July 2013 (PDT)

It does not throw an error message after I press the "Upload file" button". I am an autoconfirmed user.--Nicky Da B 13:28, 1 August 2013 (PDT)

Thanks for the info on reporting spam, I'm new to this. --Tigerslicer 18:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Current wave of spam

I suggest making the blacklist invisible to everyone except administrators. Whoever is operating these bots seems to be adapting them based on your changes. Solokiller (talk) 21:09, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Valve Game remake

Hello. As i understand, you work for Valve Software, right? I would like to start developing a remake of one of Valve's games, but I still don’t know which staff member should I write to ask permission. Ivan Knyazev (talk) 10:05, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Language Bar

Can you update the language bar with Template:lang on the page Making a Mod? --Mandrew (talk) 14:09, 24 May 2022 (PDT)

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-== Team Fortress 2: item_teamflag ==
+== User permissions - could I be 'autoconfirmed'? ==
-There has been an issue brought up [[User_talk:Daeval/TF2_How_To_Setup_Capture_The_Flag|here]] which drew my attention. My question would be that is there a not-in-FGD input which instantly returns the flag to its base position, and if not, is it possible to do this otherwise? --'''[[User:Baliame|Baliame]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Baliame|talk]])</sup> 14:40, 30 Dec 2007 (PST)
-: No, there is no input like this on item_teamflag. It may be added at some if there is a specific need. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 18:48, 2 Jan 2008 (PST)
+Hi there.  I took some screenshots of some basic examples of Logic Gates in Puzzle Maker for use on [[Portal 2 Puzzle Maker/Logic Gates|this page]], however I am unable to upload files as I am not in the 'autoconfirmed' user group.  Are you able to add me to the autoconfirmed user group via [[Special:UserRights]]?  [[User:RJackson|RJackson]] 09:27, 13 May 2012 (PDT)
-::By the way, is there any chance valve will fix up and release a flag model? I realize you guys left in the tfc flag model, but not sure if it can be used at the moment. --[[User:Frostbite|Frostbite]] 19:26, 2 Jan 2008 (PST)
+: That is odd, you should already be a confirmed user. Have you set and authenticated your email address in your user preferences? It's under '''My preferences > User profile > E-mail options'''. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 10:52, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
-::: We would release a different flag model other than the briefcase if we shipped a specific new game type that required it. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 18:12, 3 Jan 2008 (PST)
+:: I have autoconfirm issue too, my email was authenticated at 25 December 2013 at 02:21 and yet i am not in the group and cannot upload. - - -[[User:Chocoportals|Chocoportals]] 15:34, 16 March 2014 (PDT)
-::: Aww, come on >.> could you at least add support for flag model replacement? >.> --[[User:Frostbite|Frostbite]] 18:03, 4 Jan 2008 (PST)
+::: See "Problem uploading images" below for the requirements for uploading images. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 18:43, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
-::::I want it too but we should pester Robin about this instead of Jeff. --[[User:Mark WiseCarver|wisemx]] 18:38, 4 Jan 2008 (PST)
-:::::While I do agree with that, Jeff is the more or less the only Valve representative I see online. (unless the others are stalking in the shadows) --'''[[User:Baliame|Baliame]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Baliame|talk]])</sup> 04:15, 5 Jan 2008 (PST)
+== Images uploading ==
+I have problem with images uploading. I have error: ''Could not rename file "/tmp/phpO78Nz6" to "public/a/a4/P2PM_glass.png".'' --[[User:Mehiller|Mehiller]] 11:09, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
+: Is this a new image? Try it again. In future, please use the [[Valve Developer Community:Administrators' noticeboard|Administrators' noticeboard]] for this kind of issue. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 11:30, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
+== Puzzle Maker Page ==
+Hi, Jeff. I was looking at improving the layout of the [[Portal 2 Puzzle Maker|Puzzle Maker]] page and a thought struck me; right now the page is basically a hub for how-to content, but wouldn't it make more sense if the how-to stuff was moved to the category index to be more consistant with the rest of the wiki?
-== Moving a "Category:" page ==
+For example, the [[Valve Hammer Editor|Hammer]] page only describes ''what'' Hammer is, along with a brief history. The actual level design how-to hub is on the [[:Category:Level Design|Level Design category index]] (and the same goes for the [[:Category:Portal 2 Level Design|Portal 2 Level Design category index]].
-I've noticed that the "Move" button is not available in any Category page. Is this an "admin-only" option, or does it not exist altogether? I'm asking because there are some categories of other languages that could (and should) be moved to their "proper" page: Category:<page>:<lang>, to help documentation maintenance. Other than that, would the only solution be a plain-old nasty copy/paste to the new page? --[[User:Etset|Etset]] 15:42, 18 Jan 2008 (PST)
+Right now I'm playing with layouts in [[User:Nacimota/Sandbox|my sandbox]]; after discussing it with a few people, I really think it belongs on the category index. Keeping in mind that the 'wiki' link in the actual editor links directly to the [[Portal 2 Puzzle Maker]] page, I wanted to get your position (or even [[User:YasserMalaika|Yasser's]]) before I go moving things around. Cheers. --[[user:Nacimota|<span style="color: #007fbf; font-weight: bold">Nacimota</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Nacimota|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nacimota|Contributions]]</sup> 22:19, 22 May 2012 (PDT)
-:Categories are not real pages. If you add the <nowiki>[[Category:Something]]</nowiki> to any page, the category is automatically created if it doesn't exist. Likewise, if you remove it from all pages and the category doesn't have any custom text, it will disappear. --'''[[User:Baliame|Baliame]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Baliame|talk]])</sup> 08:57, 19 Jan 2008 (PST)
+: Seems reasonable, though consistent with the rest of the wiki is less important than what is effective. You will need to propose a plan for the existing page as it is the entry point and should not be a redirect. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 13:51, 23 May 2012 (PDT)
-::Yes, I am aware of that :) What I would like is a suggestion as to how to move the content in one of these Category pages, without doing it through an ugly copy-paste method (which, as we know, kind of ruins the point of the "History" section of a page, etc). I though there might be some "admin-side option/button/tool" that could accomplish this. If not, well copy-paste will have to do... --[[User:Etset|Etset]] 09:07, 19 Jan 2008 (PST)
+:: Yeah, I had no plans on making it a redirect. What I figured we would have is a page describing the Puzzle Maker in a similar fashion to the page that describes Hammer, but perhaps with more detail. I was thinking at the top and bottom we could put something like "for help using the Puzzle Maker, see [[:Category:Portal 2 Puzzle Maker]]", or something to that effect. --[[user:Nacimota|<span style="color: #8BC53F; font-weight: bold">Nacimota</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Nacimota|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nacimota|Contributions]]</sup> 09:20, 24 May 2012 (PDT)
-::PS: Found this at [[Wikipedia:Help:Moving_a_page|Wikipedia]]: "''To change the name of a category, one needs to change all category tags, and copy the editable part.''" Seems like copy-paste it is then... --[[User:Etset|Etset]] 09:41, 19 Jan 2008 (PST)
-:::Yes, I believe the feature was omitted from Wiki to avoid confusion. --'''[[User:Baliame|Baliame]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Baliame|talk]])</sup> 15:20, 19 Jan 2008 (PST)
-== Alyx gravity gun choreography ==
+== Page Organization Help ==
-How was the scene at the beginning of Episode Two with Alyx using and handing Gordon the gravity gun choreographed? Were the elements put together in Face Poser or burned into the animation? Specifically, was Alyx holding the GG one single animation or was it the Alyx model holding a separate GG model? [[User:Noclip|Noclip]] 08:25, 19 Jan 2008 (PST)
+Excume but If you got a quick sec, I need a little help on organizing a tutorial that I'm working on. What could I do to simplify it? [[Alternative Multi-Stop Elevator]] --[[User:Kwp17pitts|Kwp17pitts]] 18:18, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
-:Well I do know Valve animators work in XSI where they use multiple models to animate the most of the scenes, so they probably used a prop_dynamic and have that being animated along with alyx, and then once she hands it the gun to you, it turns into weapon_physcannon. --[[User:Frostbite|Frostbite]] 12:42, 1 Feb 2008 (PST)
-: I did not work on that particular scene, but I believe it was done with a bodygroup on Alyx for the grav gun. I will ask the animators and get back to you. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 13:54, 2 Feb 2008 (PST)
-== Need your attention ==
+== How to become an autoconfirmed user ==
-Could I please direct your attention to the following issues/posts/stuff (just give it a quick look, please):
+Hi, I'd like to write an article that require images but I can't upload them because I'm not an autoconfirmed user. What should I do to become one ? I already confirm my email adresse twice so the problem does not come from here ;)
-* <s>[[Talk:SDK_Docs#Update_links|SDK Docs in other languages]]: links need to be updated.</s>
-* <s>[[Talk:Shader_Types_and_Parameters#Finding_Shader_Types_and_Parameters|Shaders & Parameters]]: help needed!</s>
-I believe that would be all, for now. Thank you in advance! --[[User:Etset|Etset]] 12:23, 24 Jan 2008 (PST)
-:<s>Here I am to bother you once more... and once more...
-:* [[Talk:Source Engine Features]]: this (protected) page has "duplicate" content with [[Source|another article]] (& btw, what about [[Talk:Source Engine Features#Deformable terrain|deformable terrain]]?)
-:<s>* More users are getting a [[Loading problem]] with the Source SDK (see [[Talk:Loading problem#More Information]])!
-:Again, '''2×'''thanks in advance! </s>--[[User:Etset|Etset]] 05:08, 13 Feb 2008 (PST)
-::* The Source Engine page is information for engine licensees and will remain protected.
-::* Deformable displacements is an engine feature available to licensees.
-::* Regarding [[Loading problem]], I'm not familiar with this error and this is not my area, but I will see what I can find out. Questions like these belong in the [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=191 SDK Forums]. Because of the decentralized and unstructured nature of talk pages, a wiki is really a inferior tool for individual questions and answers. That's not what it is designed for. Discussion forums work much better in this regard. As a separate issue, "Loading problems" is also far too general of a question to provide a reasonable answer. I've moved it to a more specific page title. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 12:43, 15 Feb 2008 (PST)
-::::<s>Gotcha, and thank you. About the [[Source Engine Features]] page, I'm not asking if it could be unprotected, I'm only saying that...
-::::#It lacks all of the links that the [[Source]] article page has.
-::::#Both pages have (almost) the same content (there are some discrepancies), which is redundant. ([[Talk:Source_Engine_Features#Duplicate Page|I suggested]] using the <nowiki>{{:PageName}}</nowiki> "trick" to load the [[Source Engine Features]] article's content to the [[Source]] article page., since no one has though up anything else to put there...)
-::::...and that this could be "fixed". Not a pressing priority of course, just pointing it out. Cheers! </s> --[[User:Etset|Etset]] 17:10, 15 Feb 2008 (PST)
-::::: I understand. The other [[Source]] article was created by a VDC user as a duplicate of this page and edited. The original page is linked from numerous external sites and we wish to retain pages like this in their current state without editing and extra links to other sites. I don't think the duplicate content causes any real problem. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 18:00, 15 Feb 2008 (PST)
-Okie dokie! That's all for now, thanks! :) --[[User:Etset|Etset]] 11:32, 16 Feb 2008 (PST)
-<s>And again it comes to pass, I'm here to ask:
+== New wave of spam ==
-* Could you please categorize [[:Category:Temporarily protected pages|this category]] under [[:Category:Page protection]], please? Many thanks fly out in advance! </s> Thank you! :) --[[User:Etset|Etset]] 16:21, 18 Feb 2008 (PST)
+The latest bout of spam seems different than before, i got this message when i tried to flag a newly created spam page:
+User account "Renal Disease Diets" is not registered.
+Please check if you want to create/edit this page.
+What does this mean, exactly? Should these pages and users be tagged as usual? [[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] 01:26, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
+:I think it's just because the spammer's created a User:Page instead of the pages they usually create. &mdash;[[User:Mattshu|Mattshu]] 07:31, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
+:: That is correct. It's just a page created in the user namespace. Deleted. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 12:45, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
-== Releasing Shaders ==
+== Problem uploading images ==
-I don't know if you've gotten this request before, but we're having a dicussion ([[Talk:Shader_Types_and_Parameters]]) about the possibility of Valve releasing at least the names of ''all'' the currently working shaders/parameters to the community (so we don't need to guess at them anymore). I'm referring to parameters like (but not limited to) "$decalscale" and "$selfillumtexture" (not included in the released code, but still used in official materials), and shaders like "alienscale", "jellyfish" and "jojirium" if they exist (because as it is now, we can't tell if they do). (You can answer at [[Talk:Shader_Types_and_Parameters]].) Thank you. --[[User:Andreasen|Andreasen]] 07:03, 25 Jan 2008 (PST)
+I'm trying to upload an image to accompany a tutorial that I'm writing for creating a working radar mini-map in CS:GO. Yet everytime I try to upload the image by clicking "upload file" the page seems to refresh and my file doesn't appear on the list of uploaded wiki images. I am fairly new to uploading images. Am I doing anything wrong?
+--[[User:Nicky Da B|Nicky Da B]] 21:01, 29 July 2013 (PDT)
+: If it is giving an error message after you press the "Upload file" button, post it here. Also, to prevent vandalism and spam, your account needs to be confirmed for 5 days and have made 10 valid edits before images can be uploaded. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 12:12, 30 July 2013 (PDT)
+:: It does not throw an error message after I press the "Upload file" button". I am an autoconfirmed user.--[[User:Nicky Da B|Nicky Da B]] 13:28, 1 August 2013 (PDT)
-== Repeated spammers ==
+Thanks for the info on reporting spam, I'm new to this. --[[User:Tigerslicer|Tigerslicer]] 18:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
-What do we do with spammers that haven't been blocked before, but already have a spammer tag?
+== Current wave of spam ==
-:1) Leave them alone, with the risk of being overseen.
+I suggest making the blacklist invisible to everyone except administrators. Whoever is operating these bots seems to be adapting them based on your changes. [[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] ([[User talk:Solokiller|talk]]) 21:09, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
-:2) So far I just inserted some spaces with the point being that I can add an edit summary which is then visible in the recent changes.
-:3) List them here (on this talk page).
-:4) Add a line to the user page stating the number of times the bot spammed. (Again the point is to have an edit summary visible in the recent changes.)
---[[User:Pizzahut|Pizzahut]] 04:19, 26 Feb 2008 (PST)
+== Valve Game remake ==
-:Number 1 is "too risky".
-:Number 3 would be one helluva job! If you take a look at how the bot nicknames are being chosen, considering 26 alphabet letters plus 10 digits (36 characters total, considering that nicknames are ''case-insensitive'' which I'm not sure about), that gives a total of 36^10 = 3656158440062976 combinations. Now if you presume that ''half'' of these have already been banned (which is a '''very''' conservative estimate), you still have 1828079220031488 combinations to go (i.e. what I'm aiming at is that this page would be unnecessarily "flooded" with usernames while there are already categories for listing spammers). Adding the spammers nicknames here would have to be done manually anyway, so I present a better solution below.
-:Number 4 would require either
-:#Changing the {{[[:Template:Spammer|''spammer'']]}} template or
-:#Manually add in a small sentence that states how many times the spammer has struck.
-:Either way it's a part from what we've done so far to mark these spammers. In fact, a better alternative would be:
-:#A "new" spammer is marked with the {{[[:Template:Spammer|''spammer'']]}} template, which automatically places him under the [[:Category:Spammers|spammers category]].
-:#When an admin wants to ban spammers, he simply visits the spammers category and bans every user that is listed there and changes the {{[[:Template:Spammer|''spammer'']]}} template to the {{[[:Template:Banned Spammer|''banned spammer'']]}} template, which places the spammer under the [[:Category:Banned Spammers|banned spammers category]]. Now the spammers category would be empty, so there would be no more "hidden spammers" left to be banned.
-:Note that even if the admin doesn't wish to go through ''all'' the spammer's user pages and change the template, regular users can spot when the admin bans spammers and help by changing the template themselves. Also, if we keep doing this on a regular basis, it will be fairly easy to just visit the spammers category and (using the [[Special:Ipblocklist|ban list]]) quickly determine if spammers have been banned or not.
-:At the moment this alternative would require some work to be done in cross-checking those spammers (in the spammers category) with the ban list. Until then I believe I would go with option number 2.  --[[User:Etset|Etset]] 04:47, 26 Feb 2008 (PST)
-A bit off-topic, I saw [[User:TomEdwards|Tom Edwards]] mentioning [http://akismet.com/ Akismet] and  [http://www.bad-behavior.ioerror.us/ Bad Behaviour] at [[Template talk:Spammer]]. Perhaps these tools would help. --[[User:Pizzahut|Pizzahut]] 05:53, 26 Feb 2008 (PST)
+Hello. As i understand, you work for Valve Software, right? I would like to start developing a remake of one of Valve's games, but I still don’t know which staff member should I write to ask permission. [[User:Ivan Knyazev|Ivan Knyazev]] ([[User talk:Ivan Knyazev|talk]]) 10:05, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
-:Bad Behaviour stops almost all spam dead for me: 746 comments in the past week, but when I was more active it's been as high as several thousand. I've only ever had '''one''' complaint sent through the error page it sends when it blocks a submission, and that was from somebody using a beta browser that sent wonky HTTP headers. It supports MediaWiki out of the box now - there's no excuse any more! :-p --[[user:TomEdwards|TomEdwards]] 08:56, 26 Feb 2008 (PST)
-:So how much spam do we generally get over time? I'm wondering if it's worth stepping up the complication of the registration process. (just a snagit or something) --[[User:Katana314|Katana314]] 12:31, 26 Feb 2008 (PST)
-== Adjudication needed ==
+==Language Bar==
-I created [[Think()]] the other day, but Etset [[User_talk:TomEdwards#Think()|<strike>thinks</strike> contends]] that the ()s are bloat and should be removed. I contend that they mark the article as being about a function (like $ does for material commands) and, as long as they aren't filled with arguments, that makes the extra two characters worth having. Keeping the ()s also makes linking to the articles a little easier, as you don't have to worry about redirects. What do you think? --[[user:TomEdwards|TomEdwards]] 09:02, 26 Feb 2008 (PST)
+Can you update the language bar with [[Template:lang]] on the page [[Making a Mod]]? --[[User:Mandrew|Mandrew]] ([[User talk:Mandrew|talk]]) 14:09, 24 May 2022 (PDT)