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== Archives ==
== Archives ==
Please don't edit the archives.
Please don't edit the archives.
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=45770 Archive 1] -- 10 October 2006
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=45770 10 October 2006]
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=68509 Archive 2] -- 2 February 2008
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=68509 2 February 2008]
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=112627 Archive 3] -- 21 January 2009
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=112627 21 January 2009]
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=123008 Archive 4] -- 27 July 2009
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=123008 27 July 2009]
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=135954 20 July 2010]
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=150552 13:27, 13 May 2011]
* [https://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=167358 11:33, 1 May 2012]
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== Users editing template pages ==
== User permissions - could I be 'autoconfirmed'? ==
Recently, users have been editing template pages, probably unaware that they are used in a different way. An example is the [[Template:Recruiting| recruiting template]].
If these pages can be protected without breaking the usage of said templates, could this be done? [[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] 09:47, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
: Protection is generally undesirable as it restricts all users. It would be better to add a message describing proper usage with <code><nowiki><noinclude></nowiki></code> that explains the template should not be edited directly, but added to a page using the template syntax. For example, see [[Template:Construction-notice]] --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 21:30, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


== rules ==
Hi there.  I took some screenshots of some basic examples of Logic Gates in Puzzle Maker for use on [[Portal 2 Puzzle Maker/Logic Gates|this page]], however I am unable to upload files as I am not in the 'autoconfirmed' user group.  Are you able to add me to the autoconfirmed user group via [[Special:UserRights]]?  [[User:RJackson|RJackson]] 09:27, 13 May 2012 (PDT)
: That is odd, you should already be a confirmed user. Have you set and authenticated your email address in your user preferences? It's under '''My preferences > User profile > E-mail options'''. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 10:52, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
:: I have autoconfirm issue too, my email was authenticated at 25 December 2013 at 02:21 and yet i am not in the group and cannot upload. - - -[[User:Chocoportals|Chocoportals]] 15:34, 16 March 2014 (PDT)
::: See "Problem uploading images" below for the requirements for uploading images. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 18:43, 4 April 2014 (UTC)


is there a page for VDC-specific rules?
== Images uploading ==


it's starting to get really annoying that people are quoting non-existant rules about mods, and mold the rules to suit them. [[User:Kizzycocoa|Kizzycocoa]] 17:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I have problem with images uploading. I have error: ''Could not rename file "/tmp/phpO78Nz6" to "public/a/a4/P2PM_glass.png".'' --[[User:Mehiller|Mehiller]] 11:09, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
: Is this a new image? Try it again. In future, please use the [[Valve Developer Community:Administrators' noticeboard|Administrators' noticeboard]] for this kind of issue. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 11:30, 14 May 2012 (PDT)


: There are few documented rules that are unique to this site. The site has primarily operated under the same policies as [[W:Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines|Wikipedia]] except where the [[Valve_Developer_Community:Terms_of_use|Terms of use]] applies. Largely we expect the users of the site to act as adults are willing to give them some latitude about how they wish the site to function. Admins will generally only step in when it appears there are continuous disruptions or a logical consensus is not being met. That is least desirable outcome. On the flip side, users should not presume to speak for the site administrators. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 01:09, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
== Puzzle Maker Page ==


::ok, it's just, for example, I had a map list for my mod. it is fairly unique, as it consists of one level, but changed each time (much like the [http://armorgames.com/play/4309/this-is-the-only-level This is the only level] game)
Hi, Jeff. I was looking at improving the layout of the [[Portal 2 Puzzle Maker|Puzzle Maker]] page and a thought struck me; right now the page is basically a hub for how-to content, but wouldn't it make more sense if the how-to stuff was moved to the category index to be more consistant with the rest of the wiki?
::because of that, I thought "well, the mod is fairly confusing. maybe it would be nice to add in"
::so, I thought, why not make a sub-page, just to be clean and efficient about it. upon making the page, members said it's against "the rules" and marked it for deletion.


::of course, it may be against the rules, but their evidence was a discussion between a few users, and I've only seen support for mods if I go to the main page. it seems to be enticing mod makers to make entries by advertising making mods for source.
For example, the [[Valve Hammer Editor|Hammer]] page only describes ''what'' Hammer is, along with a brief history. The actual level design how-to hub is on the [[:Category:Level Design|Level Design category index]] (and the same goes for the [[:Category:Portal 2 Level Design|Portal 2 Level Design category index]].
::I then decided, as you said we are allowed to use user space for almost anything (of course, with limits. it's not a blog or a seperate wiki), I'd go to there and add the page there, and just link them to each other.
::upon which, they said, as I did that, the page had lost it's user page status. again, no proof other that that group discussion, which was beside the point as it was a user page, and they never answered how it lost it's status
::so, I just thought, maybe expanding on rules a bit would be a good idea? or, make a page, and let users discuss in the talk page for what needs implementing?


::because I am completely confused about all these rules. and I believe all rules need to be approved by an admin (they do on a forum I help out at) [[User:Kizzycocoa|Kizzycocoa]] 08:38, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Right now I'm playing with layouts in [[User:Nacimota/Sandbox|my sandbox]]; after discussing it with a few people, I really think it belongs on the category index. Keeping in mind that the 'wiki' link in the actual editor links directly to the [[Portal 2 Puzzle Maker]] page, I wanted to get your position (or even [[User:YasserMalaika|Yasser's]]) before I go moving things around. Cheers. --[[user:Nacimota|<span style="color: #007fbf; font-weight: bold">Nacimota</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Nacimota|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nacimota|Contributions]]</sup> 22:19, 22 May 2012 (PDT)
: Seems reasonable, though consistent with the rest of the wiki is less important than what is effective. You will need to propose a plan for the existing page as it is the entry point and should not be a redirect. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 13:51, 23 May 2012 (PDT)
:: Yeah, I had no plans on making it a redirect. What I figured we would have is a page describing the Puzzle Maker in a similar fashion to the page that describes Hammer, but perhaps with more detail. I was thinking at the top and bottom we could put something like "for help using the Puzzle Maker, see [[:Category:Portal 2 Puzzle Maker]]", or something to that effect. --[[user:Nacimota|<span style="color: #8BC53F; font-weight: bold">Nacimota</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Nacimota|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nacimota|Contributions]]</sup> 09:20, 24 May 2012 (PDT)


::: As I said, there's few documented rules for this site. This is not like a traditional forum. If the community decides it needs such rules, it's going to have to draft and write them, and get a general consensus about the content of such rules before they can be put into place. In the past, things like new guidelines have been created as a proposal in user space, then moved to the main namespace when it was agreed upon by general consensus. We've purposely tried not to create too many explicit rules that would constrain contributors in undesirable ways. I haven't followed all of the discussion you are referring to, but I will say that no one should be using only rules as a sole basis for an argument in any dispute if they're using citing community generated and undocumented rules. Don't take that to mean I am saying that any objections people have raised are without merit, just that community consensus is more valuable for solving disputes instead of blindly quoting rules.
== Page Organization Help ==
::: In the particular case you mentioned, I agree that a page in user space should generally not be linked on a page outside user space. The division is important so readers understand when they are reading community-controlled documentation pages versus material under the control of single user. Again, I am not quoting a rule on this, that is simply my analysis of the question. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 00:59, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
::::ah, ok. well, now I know ^^
::::I just think prehaps we should create a form of rules that -if it has to be- is decided by the overall community. maybe called "community guidelines" or something. would that be good? [[User:Kizzycocoa|Kizzycocoa]] 08:40, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::I was actually just thinking about going around the VDC collecting any rules that were posted here and there so we could write a clear rules page, in exactly the way you described it. [[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] 10:19, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::yeah, that would be good. (finally, something we are agreeing on XD)
::::::there's the small matter of community approval, or maybe even jefflane just looking every now and then and remove/edit the ones they don't like.
::::::then, at least we can HAVE documented rules for you lot to quote against me XP and it would clear up things a lot. [[User:Kizzycocoa|Kizzycocoa]] 13:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


== Report User: Crysisking_ownage922 ==
Excume but If you got a quick sec, I need a little help on organizing a tutorial that I'm working on. What could I do to simplify it? [[Alternative Multi-Stop Elevator]] --[[User:Kwp17pitts|Kwp17pitts]] 18:18, 22 June 2012 (PDT)


I'm not sure where to report a user, but I guess this place isn't all wrong.
== How to become an autoconfirmed user ==


If you look at the [[Special:Contributions/Crysisking_ownage922|contributions of said user]] then you can see, that some of his/her edits are questionable.
Hi, I'd like to write an article that require images but I can't upload them because I'm not an autoconfirmed user. What should I do to become one ? I already confirm my email adresse twice so the problem does not come from here ;)
--[[User:Z33ky|z33ky]] 11:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


: These edits are questionable, yes, though it's better to let the VDC community handle the results until the user becomes obviously malicious and/or uncontrollable with simple reverts. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 00:09, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
== New wave of spam ==
The latest bout of spam seems different than before, i got this message when i tried to flag a newly created spam page:
User account "Renal Disease Diets" is not registered.
Please check if you want to create/edit this page.
What does this mean, exactly? Should these pages and users be tagged as usual? [[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] 01:26, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
:I think it's just because the spammer's created a User:Page instead of the pages they usually create. &mdash;[[User:Mattshu|Mattshu]] 07:31, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
:: That is correct. It's just a page created in the user namespace. Deleted. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 12:45, 6 September 2012 (PDT)


:: Is there specific place to report an abusive user?  I keep ending up in recursive loops trying to find one... --[[User:Tehrasha|Tehrasha]]  20:50, 3 June 2010 (CDT)
== Problem uploading images ==


== Some files from Ricochet Level Creation to deletion ==
I'm trying to upload an image to accompany a tutorial that I'm writing for creating a working radar mini-map in CS:GO. Yet everytime I try to upload the image by clicking "upload file" the page seems to refresh and my file doesn't appear on the list of uploaded wiki images. I am fairly new to uploading images. Am I doing anything wrong?
--[[User:Nicky Da B|Nicky Da B]] 21:01, 29 July 2013 (PDT)
: If it is giving an error message after you press the "Upload file" button, post it here. Also, to prevent vandalism and spam, your account needs to be confirmed for 5 days and have made 10 valid edits before images can be uploaded. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 12:12, 30 July 2013 (PDT)
:: It does not throw an error message after I press the "Upload file" button". I am an autoconfirmed user.--[[User:Nicky Da B|Nicky Da B]] 13:28, 1 August 2013 (PDT)


Please delete
Thanks for the info on reporting spam, I'm new to this. --[[User:Tigerslicer|Tigerslicer]] 18:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
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--[[User:SiPlus|SiPlus]], the uploader of files and [[Ricochet Level Creation]] writer @ 08:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC).


== Youtube Support ==
== Current wave of spam ==


Can you consider adding the ability to embed Youtube videos into pages? --[[User:Sbrown|Sbrown]] 07:21, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I suggest making the blacklist invisible to everyone except administrators. Whoever is operating these bots seems to be adapting them based on your changes. [[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] ([[User talk:Solokiller|talk]]) 21:09, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
You can link to them (and include a thumbnail if you really want), but not everyone wants to have Flash running randomly while browsing VDC as it is fairly unstable and Youtube has been crashing some peoples browsers with the 10.1 update. Aside from that I'm assuming it would be a fairly difficult feature to add.


==list of Source SDK bugs==
== Valve Game remake ==
There are currently several pages that cover bugs in the Source SDK, at least the following: <br>
[[Source SDK Bugs]]<br>
[[Source SDK SE2 Bugs]]<br>
[[Source SDK Known Issues]]<br>


These are better merged into one page which links to a page covering bugs for each tool, i.e.:<br>
Hello. As i understand, you work for Valve Software, right? I would like to start developing a remake of one of Valve's games, but I still don’t know which staff member should I write to ask permission. [[User:Ivan Knyazev|Ivan Knyazev]] ([[User talk:Ivan Knyazev|talk]]) 10:05, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
*Hammer
*Compile tools (BSP, VIS, RAD)
*Faceposer
*Command line tools
*Other tools


There should also need to be separate sections/pages for each version of the tools (2006, 2007, 2009)<br>
==Language Bar==
What do you think? [[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] 10:02, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:I've created a concept for a unified list of issues, suggestions, etc, here: [[User:Solokiller/SDK_bugs_Concept]]
[[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] 10:45, 13 June 2010 (UTC)


: The Source SDK Known Issues page is part of the official release notes. That page cannot be merged with these other, community-created, pages. Other than that, your proposal seems reasonable. Though the formatting of the page should never include level 1 headings. Those are only for the page title. If a page seems to require them, it's sometimes an indicator that it's too long/complicated. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 23:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Can you update the language bar with [[Template:lang]] on the page [[Making a Mod]]? --[[User:Mandrew|Mandrew]] ([[User talk:Mandrew|talk]]) 14:09, 24 May 2022 (PDT)

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User permissions - could I be 'autoconfirmed'?

Hi there. I took some screenshots of some basic examples of Logic Gates in Puzzle Maker for use on this page, however I am unable to upload files as I am not in the 'autoconfirmed' user group. Are you able to add me to the autoconfirmed user group via Special:UserRights? RJackson 09:27, 13 May 2012 (PDT)

That is odd, you should already be a confirmed user. Have you set and authenticated your email address in your user preferences? It's under My preferences > User profile > E-mail options. --JeffLane 10:52, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
I have autoconfirm issue too, my email was authenticated at 25 December 2013 at 02:21 and yet i am not in the group and cannot upload. - - -Chocoportals 15:34, 16 March 2014 (PDT)
See "Problem uploading images" below for the requirements for uploading images. --JeffLane 18:43, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Images uploading

I have problem with images uploading. I have error: Could not rename file "/tmp/phpO78Nz6" to "public/a/a4/P2PM_glass.png". --Mehiller 11:09, 14 May 2012 (PDT)

Is this a new image? Try it again. In future, please use the Administrators' noticeboard for this kind of issue. --JeffLane 11:30, 14 May 2012 (PDT)

Puzzle Maker Page

Hi, Jeff. I was looking at improving the layout of the Puzzle Maker page and a thought struck me; right now the page is basically a hub for how-to content, but wouldn't it make more sense if the how-to stuff was moved to the category index to be more consistant with the rest of the wiki?

For example, the Hammer page only describes what Hammer is, along with a brief history. The actual level design how-to hub is on the Level Design category index (and the same goes for the Portal 2 Level Design category index.

Right now I'm playing with layouts in my sandbox; after discussing it with a few people, I really think it belongs on the category index. Keeping in mind that the 'wiki' link in the actual editor links directly to the Portal 2 Puzzle Maker page, I wanted to get your position (or even Yasser's) before I go moving things around. Cheers. --Nacimota Talk | Contributions 22:19, 22 May 2012 (PDT)

Seems reasonable, though consistent with the rest of the wiki is less important than what is effective. You will need to propose a plan for the existing page as it is the entry point and should not be a redirect. --JeffLane 13:51, 23 May 2012 (PDT)
Yeah, I had no plans on making it a redirect. What I figured we would have is a page describing the Puzzle Maker in a similar fashion to the page that describes Hammer, but perhaps with more detail. I was thinking at the top and bottom we could put something like "for help using the Puzzle Maker, see Category:Portal 2 Puzzle Maker", or something to that effect. --Nacimota Talk | Contributions 09:20, 24 May 2012 (PDT)

Page Organization Help

Excume but If you got a quick sec, I need a little help on organizing a tutorial that I'm working on. What could I do to simplify it? Alternative Multi-Stop Elevator --Kwp17pitts 18:18, 22 June 2012 (PDT)

How to become an autoconfirmed user

Hi, I'd like to write an article that require images but I can't upload them because I'm not an autoconfirmed user. What should I do to become one ? I already confirm my email adresse twice so the problem does not come from here ;)

New wave of spam

The latest bout of spam seems different than before, i got this message when i tried to flag a newly created spam page: User account "Renal Disease Diets" is not registered. Please check if you want to create/edit this page. What does this mean, exactly? Should these pages and users be tagged as usual? Solokiller 01:26, 6 September 2012 (PDT)

I think it's just because the spammer's created a User:Page instead of the pages they usually create. —Mattshu 07:31, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
That is correct. It's just a page created in the user namespace. Deleted. --JeffLane 12:45, 6 September 2012 (PDT)

Problem uploading images

I'm trying to upload an image to accompany a tutorial that I'm writing for creating a working radar mini-map in CS:GO. Yet everytime I try to upload the image by clicking "upload file" the page seems to refresh and my file doesn't appear on the list of uploaded wiki images. I am fairly new to uploading images. Am I doing anything wrong? --Nicky Da B 21:01, 29 July 2013 (PDT)

If it is giving an error message after you press the "Upload file" button, post it here. Also, to prevent vandalism and spam, your account needs to be confirmed for 5 days and have made 10 valid edits before images can be uploaded. --JeffLane 12:12, 30 July 2013 (PDT)
It does not throw an error message after I press the "Upload file" button". I am an autoconfirmed user.--Nicky Da B 13:28, 1 August 2013 (PDT)

Thanks for the info on reporting spam, I'm new to this. --Tigerslicer 18:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Current wave of spam

I suggest making the blacklist invisible to everyone except administrators. Whoever is operating these bots seems to be adapting them based on your changes. Solokiller (talk) 21:09, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Valve Game remake

Hello. As i understand, you work for Valve Software, right? I would like to start developing a remake of one of Valve's games, but I still don’t know which staff member should I write to ask permission. Ivan Knyazev (talk) 10:05, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Language Bar

Can you update the language bar with Template:lang on the page Making a Mod? --Mandrew (talk) 14:09, 24 May 2022 (PDT)