User talk:Kizzycocoa

feel free to contact me here ^^

Taking off the spammer tag is not something you can just do, if you are marked, an admin must review it. Stop being exactly what that title suggest: A problem poster.--Gear 02:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

you are the problem poster. not me

though I will happily keep it on. maybe a moderator will be able to see what you are doing is making the community less able to make good maps. even by a tiny bit. Kizzycocoa 05:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow, just wow.--Gear 07:29, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

what? you're so sure of yourself. so sure you're right when ACTUALLY, you planned to edit the article yourself. I saw that merge plan

you get me in trouble and fix a bad article all in one day. I have to commend you on your unnoticed stunt. Kizzycocoa 07:31, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I saw the OTHER topic. the singleplayer one. that was proposed to merge.

also, there is no doubt in my mind that all this hatred towards me is caused by my mod. I very much doubt you'd hate me if I'd have picked a less ambitious task.

regardless, I wonder how you'll react once we finish O.o

if you hated it when it was just starting, and we now have 90% of it complete, this makes me wonder what else you'll do. Kizzycocoa 07:52, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

When did I ever plan to merge it? In the history of that whole page, all I've ever done was revert it back. Lastly this has nothing to do with your mod, sure I don't like it. What are you going to do, sue me? This is about that page, and your stupidity. The stupidity you don't want to seem to stop. Bringing all of that stupidity from TWP shows how mature you are. Get over it. I wasn't even there, in fact I got there after all the drama ended.

Here are the links: [1] [2]

And lastly that was never my edit, thats been in merging for a long time now. Check the history. --Gear 07:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually I just looked at that page right now, there was no merging ever posted, ever. and this: "regardless, I wonder how you'll react once we finish O.o proves my point very well. I don't even go saying that to people.--Gear 07:58, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

no, you like to call them stupid babies instead, which is insulting. I am mearly pointing out a truth. I don't know how you, msleeper and all that would react when we finish. and it's something I'd like to see. indifference? apologetic? furiousity? I literally do not know.

unlike your godspeech. that was more than IQ-challenged toddlers. some-one's got a bit too much ego for themselves. Kizzycocoa 08:04, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

See you even spelled furiousity wrong, it's: furiosity. Ego has nothing to do with this. If it had I would of edited your user page, but I'm not like that. I understand the rules of that space, and not to touch them. And I don't call anyone stupid babies. Thats just retarded. Man where are you getting all this from? I could also give a fuck less about sleeper. The guy's an asshole and I know that. The whole world knows that. His vendetta is something other than mine. I don't care if your mod fails or succeeds. I care about the wiki, and the people who edit it. When someone tries to put something on there thats dumb, or just doesn't belong then I tell them. But no, you just had to keep reverting the page, over, and over, and over. You know who's going to get banned, you! Because when you signed up for this wiki, you clearly did not read the rules. We do not revert pages back like that, and for the history of the whole wiki no one ever has like that. Be proud, you are the first major idiot to ever do that. You say your 16, well buddy, you don't even act that way. I'd expect some maturity out of you, and hell even some grammar. You are in high school, not Elementary.--Gear 08:18, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

so, the pointing of my spelling isn't to do with ego?

also, as said in the page, you said you on purpose make the pages hard for people to read. hence why I tried to simplify it to stages, and why you were like this about it.

tbh, I don't think I have done anything too wrong. I have clogged the log list, yes. I did put it up for deletion, not knowing it meant something else, yes. but that article is on purposely vague as you said. I still don't see why you want it that way. hence my little confusion when I tried to simplify it, but you wanted it left complicated with little-no meaning. Kizzycocoa 08:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

anyway, I think that, for the sake of your VDC (apparantly), the log is too full. if you want to take this further, you can easily contact me through email. Kizzycocoa 08:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

On another note, you can't charge people for work done using the SDK or such programs. Solokiller 12:15, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

huh? I think you must be mistaken. people do do it. but it's not like I'm going to get anything here, so I'll remove the bulk of it.

Grammar

Please kizzy, if you edit an article, be sure to re-read it. It's always best to make sure you have everything proper, instead of having to re-edit and re-edit.--Gear 22:34, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I know x.x grammar is not a plus for me. it's all in my head, but grammatically, it's a minefield.

I will be better in future. Kizzycocoa 22:35, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

When making comments in the discussion are try not to make so many spaces, tabs, etc. Your comments seem to take up so much room. --cheesemoo0 02:24, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Also in many of your recent edits you have not used any capital letters. We as a community try to make everything look as proper as it can.--cheesemoo0 21:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

sorry. the HTML format is a real pain to learn. to me, pressing enter twice drops it down a line. once adds it to the end of the first.

and I am not good with capitals. it's due to my AS. sue me =/ Kizzycocoa 21:21, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't care what you have. If you are going to edit articles make sure you use capitals. --cheesemoo0 20:49, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

wow. feeling very high and mighty today, aren't we? Kizzycocoa 21:24, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

About that Level Design page

Hey, I had wanted to talk to you over steam, but instead I wanted to come to an understanding with you about the What makes a good level? page. I had first wanted to say I appreciate you trying to edit something, and trying to give your thought on the matter, something that lancelot doesn't seem to do. I respect the notion of you doing so. What I had wanted to tell you is the purpose of the wiki is to get things trimmed down way fast. Way short. For example:

TF2 Design Theory: [3] The Old Design Theory Page: [4]

I wrote that article, and then later totally threw most of it away, and redid it. The wiki is a place of great loss. You might write something one day, only too see someone totaly edit it and make it shorter. Even to the point of the fact it no longer is even yours. It shouldn't be a contest about how much things you contribute, nor a fight to be the best. But the happiness knowing that even if it was completely re-written, that it still serves it's purpose, and that you started the idea.

Thats where my problem was, with the page you tried to re-write. It had nothing to do with anyone or anything else, just that page. For instance that turned into a page talking about creating a level, and wasn't very helpful. Instead think of it this way: We had that page there for an overview. The Design Theory pages are the real insight behind the games, and hence is why they sit in their appropriate category. Portal needs one. I would like to eventually write it up, but I don't find the time doing so. I'm not asking you to do so, because I feel there needs to be a great deal of information neither you, nor I have to fill it with. But when that page pops up, then we can have our chance to write about what makes portal. What is the purpose of it's level design. And thats how it goes.

I just totally lost that insight when we talked for eons in that talk page. So I apologize for being rude to you, and I hope you can understand where I was coming from. I understand you like to map, and you love Portal I get that. Though the wiki has a place for people who've had a great deal of experience with Source. Small tutorials are fine, thats always useful, but leave some of the larger stuff for other people. I'm not trying to say your dumb, or anything like that. Just that, I feel even I sometimes haven't gained the capability to write some things down. We are all not masters, but some people just better understand the engine here, and game design in general because they've been doing it so much longer. For me: 9 years. thats also across many different engines. From 2D to 3D.--Gear 02:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I know I overreacted. I just do that. it's part of the whole AS thing. about 1/4 through it, I wanted to revert everything back and not bother.

I understand my things can be edited, and like I said, it doesn't matter to me. I just find that article way too confusing. I think I have an idea of what to do to combat that. perhaps add links to the TF2, portal, HL2 etc. design theory?

I can try to help with that. I would definitely like to know the secret behind ambient lighting, so I have more of a chance to just make it now, leave it to be edited by others etc.

believe it or not, I know what you think of me deep down, as has been said a lot, and even I google my own name now and then, and I did read your interloper's comments)

you think, like many others, I have no experience, and you base it off P:AAA's early stage, and think I'll ruin portal. I hope you can understand, things have changed since then. I admit I was a noob to think I can complete this project (I had intended to make it all in one map too O.O), but now I started it, I might as well finish. I know the project is stupidly impossible, and you think I'm stupid to continue it, and think I am still not good due to continuing, but I am better than before, and the project will be completed.

and I too do have experience. I have about 5 years of game-manipulation experience.

like chu-chu rocket(sorta), game maker, fps creator and hammer. I was just new to the wiki, and didn't understand how that page fulfilled the title's description.

I do want to say, I am sorry for making it go on like that. but that page needs to have links etc. in. I just edited it wrong, and misunderstood the deleting stages. Kizzycocoa 14:35, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Well if someone doesn't like you over the internet, big deal. This shit isn't 4chan man.--Gear 01:25, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

yet, you make false assumptions due to my work I made WAYYYY back when I was a noob. =/ Kizzycocoa 08:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

And now here I am showing up after a few months of absence and boom, personal war. Order, people. --Baliame ^(talk) 21:06, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

hey, I was new. the article is clearly lacking content. no malicious intent was meant.

besides, it's not my fault that M2VC hates me. =/ Kizzycocoa 23:05, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

ok, lets get this over with

I am sick and tired of you saying I am a bad mapper, when the proof department is clearly lacking.

therefore, I want to make an arrangement for you.

I am willing to do some sort of "test" if you will.

all I need from you is a map (poorly drawn or otherwise), clear indications of hight (1 for normal, 2 for double etc.), and tell me what it would be intended for.

if not, fair enough. just a simple polite offer for you to try and prove I'm wrong.

but, I do want to add, ignoring and/or declining says a lot more than your insults ever could =/ Kizzycocoa 00:04, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

right. there we have it. Kizzycocoa 19:41, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Edit wars

Could you please stop it with the edit wars? If somebody reverts your edit, don't just revert his actions, discuss it on the talk page first. Solokiller 11:30, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

it's not my fault. he is doing very stupid things with these pages. the knows nothing about my mod, yet feels it necessary to blow a shitstorm up all over again by removing it. and the water, it was true. he saw a tiny fault, and instead of moving the informative entry, he decides to remove it. that is NOT good wiki-editing IMO. and if he sees fault, HE should discuss it. instead of taking it upon himself to assume. Kizzycocoa 11:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

You kept on reverting his changes, i'd say you were at least partially to blame for it. The 'Portal user created content' page is for content for Portal, not mods that use Portal content, if you looked at the things on the page you'd have noticed that. It's not a 'shitstorm' either, you're just blowing things way out of proportion. As for the Water article, the note you added is covered just a few lines down, while it doesn't specifies whether it's done like that for expensive or cheap water, your note is still redundant. Solokiller 12:28, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

well, I never noticed the comment at all.

the user created page has MAPS for god's sake. I'm sure a mod that has maps, textures and more is more than good enough to quality *rolls eyes*

I'd accept blame for the water, be he had no right to remove it, as it has WAY more portal user created content than he thinks, and he has no right to think it isn't, as he hasn't even seen the mod, and won't until release.

and you HONESTLY cannot expect me to let him do that, and me take it lying down. that just isn't on. it is user created content for and using portal. end of. it qualifies. Kizzycocoa 12:35, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Your mod is stated has using Portal content, yes, but it also states that 'new' code is being added. I'm sure the term 'mod' on that page refers more to larger groups of linked maps than an entirely user-coded version of Portal, which is a separate mod, but if you want it on there, fine by me. But i, for one, would really like it if you didn't act so impulsively towards other people editing your work. Solokiller 12:41, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

you think I won't have that many maps?

god, you need to research more on this mod if you think we won't have A LOT of maps. regardless, we are basically a map, but we have portal code as well as a campaign and all that stuff attatched. it is more than a map, yes. but it uses portal content, it is made in the style of portal, and furthermore, it is a mod that is played on portal >.> Kizzycocoa 12:49, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

It's impossible to add new code and yet still use Portal, and i never said you didn't have many maps. Solokiller 12:58, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

"I'm sure the term 'mod' on that page refers more to larger groups of linked maps than an entirely user-coded version of Portal"

you did.

and I'm sure it's not impossible. there probably is a way, even if it's complicated. and if so, that's the route we take. Kizzycocoa 13:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

You can reverse engineer the dll, which is so illegal i won't discuss it any further. And you're twisting my words, you can have 10 maps in a Portal mappack or in a seperate mod, the point is which classifies as a map or mod to Portal. Solokiller 13:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

it is a map

it uses portal stuff. is there any more specific description that anyone cares about? =/ Kizzycocoa 13:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

For chirst sake, learn to edit wiki pages using the right syntax, it's awful to try to read what you say. By the way Solokiller, you should stop argueing with Kizzycocoa, it's a desperate cause. Since he's been there, all he managed to do is blame everyone except him and refuse every edit made to his stuff. Either his rights needs to be restricted, either he needs to calm down, but he won't listen to anything you might say, so save yourself this extra hassle. --NykO18 19:45, 10 December 2009 (UTC)