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* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=45770 Archive 1] -- October 10th, 2006
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=45770 Archive 1] -- 10 October 2006
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=68509 Archive 2] -- February 2nd, 2008
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=68509 Archive 2] -- 2 February 2008
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=112627 Archive 3] -- January 21st, 2009  
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=112627 Archive 3] -- 21 January 2009
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=123008 Archive 4] -- 27 July 2009
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== Categories on redirect pages ==
I just noticed that the software upgrade has led to [[:Category:List of Shader Parameters#mw-pages|redirect pages appearing in categories]]. This is "correct" behaviour insofar as they do have <nowiki>[[Category:X]]</nowiki> in them, but bad because it's spamming up the list with unimportant entries. I'd like to see them hidden again...what do you think? --[[user:TomEdwards|TomEdwards]] 19:23, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
: Interesting, I had not noticed this, but it makes sense. This is more of a new feature than a bug since the redirects actually have category tags in them. The category index is similar to the index of a book, so in this particular case, I think it is appropriate that the redirect titles that are unique parameters (such as [[$basetexturenoenvmap]]) are in the category index. The redirects that are duplicates of other entries clearly added only for search purposes ([[$detail alpha mask base texture]]) should definitely not have category tags. And the remaining ones in the $ section could get category tags parameters added so they are correctly alphabetized. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 01:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
== Bugged pages when past a certain length ==
On the [[List of L4D Models]] page, it goes into blank space past "props_rooftop\acvent03.mdl" (ctrl+f and paste to hop to it) for some reason - but when you edit the page you can see the content past that still exists, just for some reason the wiki isn't showing it
Wikipedia doesn't have this problem dunno if it's a known bug or what, thought you should know --[[User:Wikikitty|Wikikitty]] 19:34, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
== Left 4 Dead: Survival ==
Hi Jeff, it's me again. If you don't mind me asking, what makes the game think that a certain map is survival map? I've been inspecting the Last Stand map for the last 3 hours and couldn't find anything that would indicate this. --'''[[User:Baliame|Baliame]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Baliame|talk]])</sup> 20:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
:I assume it's set with the mp_gamemode now. Before loading the map, it is set to survival. For the current maps that have survial modes on them, they have some hand-written lump which adds any Survival unique entities.  --[[User:Remmiz|Remmiz]] 21:51, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, that would explain it all, however, if gamemode is only settable prior to map start, it would be impossible, or rather dodgy to set it up in the map file only :( --'''[[User:Baliame|Baliame]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Baliame|talk]])</sup> 14:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
:::To make a Survival map all you really need to do is like maybe make a map specific config changing the gamemode, and use a panic event to start the timer. --[[User:Frostbite|&#39;&#39;JakeB&#39;&#39;]] 20:01, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
== Deletion party ==
Holy crap you had a little deletion party on the 19th. Well, at least you removed all the useless stuff ;) --[[User:Sbrown|Sbrown]] 22:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
== otherlang2 ==
I've made a visual version of otherlang, which has been possible since Mediawiki added link= support to images. [[Template talk:Otherlang2|But there's a problem that stops it from working on translated pages]]. Can you see a solution to this from the admin side? --[[user:TomEdwards|TomEdwards]] 20:18, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
== Bad french translation ==
Dears Jeff
A whole french community has been spammed on their forum board by the Wiki user
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/User:Anarkia777
But it's like a teenager editing.
Some times he simply copy/past english without translating.
Some times he's introduce mistake in the process.
Every time it's full of language error.
Most of us like Nyko18 (Portal Prelude and I hate Moutain) and Kirumi (Another good french level Designer)
Have tried to edit him work and tried to talk with him without success.
He reply by deleting their editing, injure, or children sentence
"Gna I make it frist, mine ti is!! Naa y'r late ur nab!" (Of course I use him spelling when he trying to say:)
"Well I have done it first, So it's mine now and your are weak, sorry!"
Best Regards,
Gectou4
From French Level deisgn Community
:Pls stop that. Thx. Anarkia777 PS : Jeff pls stop this user "Gectou4", he come anger, want delete all article, critic always, and he never corect. Very Thx.
== Gectou4 complain ==
Excuse me I've a problem with this user. He come and his language is very bad, he spam french sections, I don't know him and he write that on Jeff section, he has make only 1 article and he complain still :
:Exanple of his language about other :
:'''Are you kidding us? do not remove bad gramar template when you add more ! - I fix it for this time, stop Scamming pple!)'''
:'''http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/User_talk:Gectou4'''
:'''Attention! Cette article a été traduit à la sauvette''' for ''Template:Bad French Translation''
:'''Not spam, lexical definition: it's something you don't know''' here : http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=Getting_started_with_Source:fr&action=history
:: Sorry but I have no obligation about fixing your article. Please check my contributions before liying. Stop spamming us whith "useless recent change" (sorry for VDC pple about this child's wars) btw I have fixed once of your article, but look like you haven't seen it... and you continue to request us to fix your work? Do it well first! [[http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/User:Kirumi|I'm not the first one who's trying to fix your work]] and you don't understand ''(Kirumi was a great french level designer and now is a professional)'' Do I have to list each one of them? And Please! Use wiki's standards when you reply and use your sign .--[[User:Gectou4|Gectou4]] 09:40, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Sorry pls stop spam, I don't know kirumi, and you. Stop. But this user is too a spammer he write that on the article ''Creating a dynamic light:fr'' :
:'''[NOTE POUR L'AUTEUR] Si tu jouais avec les commentaires en mode developpeur, tu serais un peu moins ignorant et tu éviterais de répandre tes bétises par le biais de """"tuto""""
:'''Mais bon sang, tu vois pas que tu dis de la merde ?''' on his discussion page.
[[Here is not a children wars, stop that pls. I ask Administrator to stop GECTOU and KIRUMI.]]
Thx. Anarkia777
Could all of you please stop this? Judging by your childish acts, neither of you are capable of discussing and solving this issue yourselves, so just let it go and let Jeff decide what's best. [[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] 11:03, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:I agree. But as I said on my discussion page, I just reproach Anarkia to post false information about lighting entities.
:And, to prevent this, I only deleted the false parts. By example, the part (1 sentence) where he said that Episode 1 don't use any Dynamical lighting.
:[[User:kirumi|kirumi]] 13:13, 24 July 2009
:Our Aplogies to the whole VDC, we've got spammed too, we have already trying to talk, but like you said it's turn like childish acts. It's like talking to a wall. he's vandalisme everything, got a ban, then create a new account and do it again. Now he do it on the wiki. that's enough. We can no longer supports this anymore.
:Once again, our most sincere apologies about this .--[[User:Gectou4|Gectou4]] 11:35, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::PS : It's ok for Kirumi I speaked with him. Thx. Anarkia777.
:::The user Gectou continued spam my page now : http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/User_talk:Anarkia777. Anarkia777 24/07/09
::::The problem is ok now. Sorry for all that. --[[User:Anarkia777|Anarkia777]] 15:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC)


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Recently, users have been editing template pages, probably unaware that they are used in a different way. An example is the recruiting template. If these pages can be protected without breaking the usage of said templates, could this be done? Solokiller 09:47, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Protection is generally undesirable as it restricts all users. It would be better to add a message describing proper usage with <noinclude> that explains the template should not be edited directly, but added to a page using the template syntax. For example, see Template:Construction-notice --JeffLane 21:30, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

rules

is there a page for VDC-specific rules?

it's starting to get really annoying that people are quoting non-existant rules about mods, and mold the rules to suit them. Kizzycocoa 17:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

There are few documented rules that are unique to this site. The site has primarily operated under the same policies as Wikipedia except where the Terms of use applies. Largely we expect the users of the site to act as adults are willing to give them some latitude about how they wish the site to function. Admins will generally only step in when it appears there are continuous disruptions or a logical consensus is not being met. That is least desirable outcome. On the flip side, users should not presume to speak for the site administrators. --JeffLane 01:09, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
ok, it's just, for example, I had a map list for my mod. it is fairly unique, as it consists of one level, but changed each time (much like the This is the only level game)
because of that, I thought "well, the mod is fairly confusing. maybe it would be nice to add in"
so, I thought, why not make a sub-page, just to be clean and efficient about it. upon making the page, members said it's against "the rules" and marked it for deletion.
of course, it may be against the rules, but their evidence was a discussion between a few users, and I've only seen support for mods if I go to the main page. it seems to be enticing mod makers to make entries by advertising making mods for source.
I then decided, as you said we are allowed to use user space for almost anything (of course, with limits. it's not a blog or a seperate wiki), I'd go to there and add the page there, and just link them to each other.
upon which, they said, as I did that, the page had lost it's user page status. again, no proof other that that group discussion, which was beside the point as it was a user page, and they never answered how it lost it's status
so, I just thought, maybe expanding on rules a bit would be a good idea? or, make a page, and let users discuss in the talk page for what needs implementing?
because I am completely confused about all these rules. and I believe all rules need to be approved by an admin (they do on a forum I help out at) Kizzycocoa 08:38, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
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