View source for Talk:Hammer Using Cordon

This is page linked as part of the [[:Category:Hammer|Hammer reference documentation]]. It will not be deleted. Look at what [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Hammer_Using_Cordon links to it]. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 18:05, 5 May 2006 (PDT)
: Okay, but as [[Hammer Cordon Usage]] follows the title standard (Cordon is the subject, making searching sorted lists easier.) I've made this page a redirect instead, if that's okay. However, there is no link on the reference documentation page you linked to, and nothing within the wiki links to this page either, just so you know. --[[User:Andreasen|Andreasen]] 14:51, 17 Aug 2006 (PDT)
::Just as an FYI, there's a bit on my [[User_talk:Giles#Cordon_Tool|talk page]] that fills in the 3 months between Jeff's message and yours, and explains a few of your points. --[[User:Giles|Giles]] 16:30, 17 Aug 2006 (PDT)
:::Thank you, but it doesn't really explain why Jeff wants to protect this page. However, if you guys are worried that newbies won't get the new merged page, it was I who rewrote it, and I've never ever, ever used cordons before. It was mostly just a matter of removing repeated explanations. (There were about FOUR repetitions for every instruction and description, in one way or another, and that reeeaaally tires newbies like me enough to just forget about learning about it. Seriously. I have endured hours upon hours of compile time just in order to avoid reading the same explanation on that page over and over again. That's how bad it was.) --[[User:Andreasen|Andreasen]] 16:58, 17 Aug 2006 (PDT)
:::: At the time that I wrote that message, the merging was done very poorly, the inter-wiki links were not properly cleaned up, and no redirect was created (which is important for the Hammer documentation, due to external links). There's little more to it than that. Your rewrite is certainly better than it was.
:::: Are you planning on cropping or redoing those cordon screenshots? There's no need to show the entire windows desktop (or even the entire Hammer interface, for that matter) to illustrate this feature. You can also [[Hammer_2D_Views_Options#Display_scrollbars|disable the scroll bars]] to create even more usable space (and smaller screenshots). Most of our designers have the scroll bars disable, and use the <Spacebar> to scroll. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 20:20, 17 Aug 2006 (PDT)
:::::Done. (I compressed them as much as I could to get them below 100k, but one of them is still larger. Also the menu "OK" and "Cancel" buttons are now in swedish. The two left unchanged is barely worth the trouble, although the one displaying the cordon state doesn't seem to display any cropping of the map. It must be really old.) --[[User:Andreasen|Andreasen]] 04:54, 18 Aug 2006 (PDT)