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== Archives ==
 
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* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=45770 Archive 1] -- 10 October 2006
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* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=68509 Archive 2] -- 2 February 2008
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* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=68509 2 February 2008]
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=112627 Archive 3] -- 21 January 2009
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* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=112627 21 January 2009]
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=123008 Archive 4] -- 27 July 2009
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* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=123008 27 July 2009]
* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=135954 Archive 5] -- 20 July 2010
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* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=135954 20 July 2010]
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* [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=150552 13:27, 13 May 2011]
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* [https://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JeffLane&oldid=167358 11:33, 1 May 2012]
 
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== VDC as vanity page ==
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== User permissions - could I be 'autoconfirmed'? ==
  
I've noticed [[User:Kostya]] is turning this wiki into his own vanity website, uploading an absurd number of images (see also [[Alyx versus Freeman]]). Is this forbidden? I can't really find any rules about anything anywhere, except references to Wikipedia rules, where such behavior would be strictly forbidden. EDIT:In the meantime, I've been writing up Help and guideline articles, so that we actually have help and guideline articles, but I've avoided this specific subject for the time being because I'm not sure about it and you're the closest thing to official input that's available. [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 22:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
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Hi there.  I took some screenshots of some basic examples of Logic Gates in Puzzle Maker for use on [[Portal 2 Puzzle Maker/Logic Gates|this page]], however I am unable to upload files as I am not in the 'autoconfirmed' user group.  Are you able to add me to the autoconfirmed user group via [[Special:UserRights]][[User:RJackson|RJackson]] 09:27, 13 May 2012 (PDT)
: In general, we give people some latitude with their own userspace. However, the site is not a blog host or a file repository and should not be used for that. There are simply better sites for those use cases. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 01:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
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: That is odd, you should already be a confirmed user. Have you set and authenticated your email address in your user preferences? It's under '''My preferences > User profile > E-mail options'''. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 10:52, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
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:: I have autoconfirm issue too, my email was authenticated at 25 December 2013 at 02:21 and yet i am not in the group and cannot upload. - - -[[User:Chocoportals|Chocoportals]] 15:34, 16 March 2014 (PDT)
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::: See "Problem uploading images" below for the requirements for uploading images. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 18:43, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
  
== Delete a duplicate image? ==
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== Images uploading ==
  
Hi, I uploaded an image here [[:File:NVidia_EnableAO.PNG]], but apparently two copies were uploaded (I really don't know how that happened, I only clicked upload once). On the wiki two copies are only different in that one of the has the PNG capitalized and the other doesn't. Could you delete one of them? Thanks. [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 23:35, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
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I have problem with images uploading. I have error: ''Could not rename file "/tmp/phpO78Nz6" to "public/a/a4/P2PM_glass.png".'' --[[User:Mehiller|Mehiller]] 11:09, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
: There was something seriously messed up with that file. I deleted the existing version, so you'll have to re-upload it and see if that works. Try using a lowercase extension, that is preferable. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 01:11, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
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: Is this a new image? Try it again. In future, please use the [[Valve Developer Community:Administrators' noticeboard|Administrators' noticeboard]] for this kind of issue. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 11:30, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
::Thanks, I didn't use uppercase the first time but the duplicate ended up with it.
 
::Would it be possible to appoint someone with partial administrative powers to start pruning things on the [[:Category:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion|massive list of problem content]], some of which have been waiting to be deleted for years? [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 11:34, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 
  
:Also, you should probably delete this: [[File:Bxd.jpg]] [[:File:Bxd.jpg]] [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 19:56, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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== Puzzle Maker Page ==
  
== Ban spammer ==
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Hi, Jeff. I was looking at improving the layout of the [[Portal 2 Puzzle Maker|Puzzle Maker]] page and a thought struck me; right now the page is basically a hub for how-to content, but wouldn't it make more sense if the how-to stuff was moved to the category index to be more consistant with the rest of the wiki?
  
Could you look at [[User:Tanisha]]? Clearly a spam only account ( [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TanishaBurner&oldid=139040] ). [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 20:31, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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For example, the [[Valve Hammer Editor|Hammer]] page only describes ''what'' Hammer is, along with a brief history. The actual level design how-to hub is on the [[:Category:Level Design|Level Design category index]] (and the same goes for the [[:Category:Portal 2 Level Design|Portal 2 Level Design category index]].
  
== Personal attacks ==
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Right now I'm playing with layouts in [[User:Nacimota/Sandbox|my sandbox]]; after discussing it with a few people, I really think it belongs on the category index. Keeping in mind that the 'wiki' link in the actual editor links directly to the [[Portal 2 Puzzle Maker]] page, I wanted to get your position (or even [[User:YasserMalaika|Yasser's]]) before I go moving things around. Cheers. --[[user:Nacimota|<span style="color: #007fbf; font-weight: bold">Nacimota</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Nacimota|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nacimota|Contributions]]</sup> 22:19, 22 May 2012 (PDT)
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: Seems reasonable, though consistent with the rest of the wiki is less important than what is effective. You will need to propose a plan for the existing page as it is the entry point and should not be a redirect. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 13:51, 23 May 2012 (PDT)
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:: Yeah, I had no plans on making it a redirect. What I figured we would have is a page describing the Puzzle Maker in a similar fashion to the page that describes Hammer, but perhaps with more detail. I was thinking at the top and bottom we could put something like "for help using the Puzzle Maker, see [[:Category:Portal 2 Puzzle Maker]]", or something to that effect. --[[user:Nacimota|<span style="color: #8BC53F; font-weight: bold">Nacimota</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Nacimota|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nacimota|Contributions]]</sup> 09:20, 24 May 2012 (PDT)
  
I'm sorry to bother you again, I imagine I'm annoying, but I think Gear/MrTwoVideoCards' behavior has gotten out of hand and inappropriate here: [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ambient_occlusion&diff=140454&oldid=140452] [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thelonesoldier&diff=140436&oldid=140388] . [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 01:02, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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== Page Organization Help ==
:lol. Clearly not the best. But gently and calmly explaining to you why the article doesn't meet proper criteria wasn't enough. Even though I made over 3 points as to why this was the case. Your inability to understand that was the result of how that talk page grew to it's size. Rightly so it has nothing to do with how I behaved, but afterall you seemed to be "thinking with hurr". You still are.
 
:Anyways yess, in case this does become a problem for you and I didn't even wish to include you (was going to talk to Tom Edwards instead ''- way to go Lonesolder'') I put up a delete tag for a Ambient occlusion article about two weeks ago. Sometime at least at the end of November. My first reasoning to having done this was: "Sorry but unless this is an actual shader you can use, or if this article would to present some way or form of shader authoring to achieve this effect it's worthless. Anyone can read about SSAO anywhere else, and this even includes wikipedia". I Understood I wasn't entirely clear, but as required later I went on to reply and post up a few points as to why this isn't something we should have up on the wiki. This article was like the equivalent of talking about AA, or some other form of rendering thats almost in any engine. It's nothing really source specific, and something mappers do not have to care/concern about. While it's cool and fancy and all, thats not a reason why an article should stay on the VDC. Anyways obviously as seen in the talk page my points weren't getting through to them, and they insisted on arguing that nothing was wrong on the page. I eventually went on to ask the original author to either re-write the page to be useful, or provide perhaps some information on how to author a Ambient Occlusion shader. I went through all the main steps of making points, asking for a clean up/re-write etc before I completely lost hope in Humanity and no longer wanted to live on this Planet. But I don't apologize for my behavior. If lonesolder wants to go and play daddy's girl to you then so be it. But I calmly went through the needed steps before going south.--[[User:MrTwoVideoCards|Gear]] 03:10, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:: See [[Talk:Ambient occlusion]]. There is no reason for this level of personal attacks, no matter what steps were taken to get there. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 02:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 
  
:We have similar behavior continued from 1/4 Life, who also is trying to revert me out of editing the page at all. [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thelonesoldier&curid=10347&diff=140725&oldid=140451] [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=Ambient_occlusion&diff=140654&oldid=140651] [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:OneQuarterLife&diff=140727&oldid=140723]  [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 22:46, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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Excume but If you got a quick sec, I need a little help on organizing a tutorial that I'm working on. What could I do to simplify it? [[Alternative Multi-Stop Elevator]] --[[User:Kwp17pitts|Kwp17pitts]] 18:18, 22 June 2012 (PDT)
::I'm going to go ahead and say you need to get banned. All of your edits are terrible, and you take any form of change upon your work as a personal attack.--[[User:OneQuarterLife|1/4 Life]] 23:16, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 
::Stop wasting Jeff's time. He's a busy man.--[[User:OneQuarterLife|1/4 Life]] 23:17, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:::Sorry to go crying to you again, but this is a ''gem'' [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ambient_occlusion&diff=140948&oldid=140947]  . [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 22:49, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 
  
:This might be important for future reference, is there any policy regarding community votes, i.e. whether we should count votes from people with little or no editing history? On Wikipedia such votes are referred to as sockpuppets and discounted, but this isn't Wikipedia so I'm not sure. [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 06:29, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
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== How to become an autoconfirmed user ==
  
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Hi, I'd like to write an article that require images but I can't upload them because I'm not an autoconfirmed user. What should I do to become one ? I already confirm my email adresse twice so the problem does not come from here ;)
  
:Gear has started a new account [[User:MrFourVideoCards]] . [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 08:47, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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== New wave of spam ==
::And he's back to insulting other users: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:$nocull&diff=141931&oldid=141921  . [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 11:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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The latest bout of spam seems different than before, i got this message when i tried to flag a newly created spam page:
:::Your definition of insulting is pretty extreme IMO, and while he could've made his argument a little better, it's not an insult. Also, why are you fishing for ways to get him banned? Are you checking every edit he makes just to see if he uses the wrong word? [[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] 12:51, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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User account "Renal Disease Diets" is not registered.
::::Quiet yourself Solokiller. Clearly Thelonesoldier is the greatest contributor this wiki has. What right have you, a mere one edit a week mortal to question his infinite knowledge?--[[User:OneQuarterLife|1/4 Life]] 03:18, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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Please check if you want to create/edit this page.
::::He already got banned, permanently. He made a new account. I really have no interest in debating about any of it. It was just a heads up for Jeff, he can do whatever he wants. [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 13:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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What does this mean, exactly? Should these pages and users be tagged as usual? [[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] 01:26, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
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:I think it's just because the spammer's created a User:Page instead of the pages they usually create. &mdash;[[User:Mattshu|Mattshu]] 07:31, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
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:: That is correct. It's just a page created in the user namespace. Deleted. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 12:45, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
  
== Category:Valve ==
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== Problem uploading images ==
  
Hey, I made a new category, [[:Category:Valve]]. Could you add the protected pages [[Licensing Valve Technology]] and [[Building Mods with Valve Technology]] to that category? [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 21:41, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
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I'm trying to upload an image to accompany a tutorial that I'm writing for creating a working radar mini-map in CS:GO. Yet everytime I try to upload the image by clicking "upload file" the page seems to refresh and my file doesn't appear on the list of uploaded wiki images. I am fairly new to uploading images. Am I doing anything wrong?
:Thanks! [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 02:40, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
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--[[User:Nicky Da B|Nicky Da B]] 21:01, 29 July 2013 (PDT)
::a suggestion: whats about a subcategory for all Valve staff members in the valve developer community? --[[User:Sacaldur|Sacaldur]] 20:27, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
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: If it is giving an error message after you press the "Upload file" button, post it here. Also, to prevent vandalism and spam, your account needs to be confirmed for 5 days and have made 10 valid edits before images can be uploaded. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 12:12, 30 July 2013 (PDT)
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:: It does not throw an error message after I press the "Upload file" button". I am an autoconfirmed user.--[[User:Nicky Da B|Nicky Da B]] 13:28, 1 August 2013 (PDT)
  
== User preferences box not stylized ==
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Thanks for the info on reporting spam, I'm new to this. --[[User:Tigerslicer|Tigerslicer]] 18:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
  
It may only be happening for me, but my user preferences blinded me with its original white background. I wasn't sure if this was purposely set or accidental by not using the same color schemes as this new layout. &mdash;[[User:Mattshu|Mattshu]] 18:44, 27 June 2011 (PDT)
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== Current wave of spam ==
: That was an oversight -- the changes did not get applied. Should look better now, though it is a work-in-progress. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 19:51, 27 June 2011 (PDT)
 
::That's a lot better. Thanks. &mdash;[[User:Mattshu|Mattshu]] 20:27, 27 June 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Old VDC theme ==
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I suggest making the blacklist invisible to everyone except administrators. Whoever is operating these bots seems to be adapting them based on your changes. [[User:Solokiller|Solokiller]] ([[User talk:Solokiller|talk]]) 21:09, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 
 
Could you add the original style as alternative to the preferences? I quite liked the original bright theme. --[[User:Pizzahut|pizzahut]] 04:26, 28 June 2011 (PDT)
 
: Unfortunately, no. It was tested, but too many changes to site templates were required that the old theme unusable. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 11:07, 28 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Floating image borders ==
 
 
 
Really liking the new style! There is one niggle though: all floated boxes have borders, [[GIMP|which isn't always desirable]]. Could the borders be disabled on images? --[[user:TomEdwards|TomEdwards]] 05:10, 28 June 2011 (PDT)
 
: Yes, the border should not be there. This was fixed. --[[User:JeffLane|JeffLane]] 11:09, 28 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Otherlang2 template integration ==
 
 
 
Tom here. Since there's an actual site style now, could I please [[User:Artfunkel/otherlang heading|put in a request]]? --[[User:Artfunkel|Artfunkel]] 13:45, 30 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Looks great ==
 
 
 
New site style looks great! [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 21:53, 30 June 2011 (PDT)
 

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User permissions - could I be 'autoconfirmed'?

Hi there. I took some screenshots of some basic examples of Logic Gates in Puzzle Maker for use on this page, however I am unable to upload files as I am not in the 'autoconfirmed' user group. Are you able to add me to the autoconfirmed user group via Special:UserRights? RJackson 09:27, 13 May 2012 (PDT)

That is odd, you should already be a confirmed user. Have you set and authenticated your email address in your user preferences? It's under My preferences > User profile > E-mail options. --JeffLane 10:52, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
I have autoconfirm issue too, my email was authenticated at 25 December 2013 at 02:21 and yet i am not in the group and cannot upload. - - -Chocoportals 15:34, 16 March 2014 (PDT)
See "Problem uploading images" below for the requirements for uploading images. --JeffLane 18:43, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Images uploading

I have problem with images uploading. I have error: Could not rename file "/tmp/phpO78Nz6" to "public/a/a4/P2PM_glass.png". --Mehiller 11:09, 14 May 2012 (PDT)

Is this a new image? Try it again. In future, please use the Administrators' noticeboard for this kind of issue. --JeffLane 11:30, 14 May 2012 (PDT)

Puzzle Maker Page

Hi, Jeff. I was looking at improving the layout of the Puzzle Maker page and a thought struck me; right now the page is basically a hub for how-to content, but wouldn't it make more sense if the how-to stuff was moved to the category index to be more consistant with the rest of the wiki?

For example, the Hammer page only describes what Hammer is, along with a brief history. The actual level design how-to hub is on the Level Design category index (and the same goes for the Portal 2 Level Design category index.

Right now I'm playing with layouts in my sandbox; after discussing it with a few people, I really think it belongs on the category index. Keeping in mind that the 'wiki' link in the actual editor links directly to the Portal 2 Puzzle Maker page, I wanted to get your position (or even Yasser's) before I go moving things around. Cheers. --Nacimota Talk | Contributions 22:19, 22 May 2012 (PDT)

Seems reasonable, though consistent with the rest of the wiki is less important than what is effective. You will need to propose a plan for the existing page as it is the entry point and should not be a redirect. --JeffLane 13:51, 23 May 2012 (PDT)
Yeah, I had no plans on making it a redirect. What I figured we would have is a page describing the Puzzle Maker in a similar fashion to the page that describes Hammer, but perhaps with more detail. I was thinking at the top and bottom we could put something like "for help using the Puzzle Maker, see Category:Portal 2 Puzzle Maker", or something to that effect. --Nacimota Talk | Contributions 09:20, 24 May 2012 (PDT)

Page Organization Help

Excume but If you got a quick sec, I need a little help on organizing a tutorial that I'm working on. What could I do to simplify it? Alternative Multi-Stop Elevator --Kwp17pitts 18:18, 22 June 2012 (PDT)

How to become an autoconfirmed user

Hi, I'd like to write an article that require images but I can't upload them because I'm not an autoconfirmed user. What should I do to become one ? I already confirm my email adresse twice so the problem does not come from here ;)

New wave of spam

The latest bout of spam seems different than before, i got this message when i tried to flag a newly created spam page: User account "Renal Disease Diets" is not registered. Please check if you want to create/edit this page. What does this mean, exactly? Should these pages and users be tagged as usual? Solokiller 01:26, 6 September 2012 (PDT)

I think it's just because the spammer's created a User:Page instead of the pages they usually create. —Mattshu 07:31, 6 September 2012 (PDT)
That is correct. It's just a page created in the user namespace. Deleted. --JeffLane 12:45, 6 September 2012 (PDT)

Problem uploading images

I'm trying to upload an image to accompany a tutorial that I'm writing for creating a working radar mini-map in CS:GO. Yet everytime I try to upload the image by clicking "upload file" the page seems to refresh and my file doesn't appear on the list of uploaded wiki images. I am fairly new to uploading images. Am I doing anything wrong? --Nicky Da B 21:01, 29 July 2013 (PDT)

If it is giving an error message after you press the "Upload file" button, post it here. Also, to prevent vandalism and spam, your account needs to be confirmed for 5 days and have made 10 valid edits before images can be uploaded. --JeffLane 12:12, 30 July 2013 (PDT)
It does not throw an error message after I press the "Upload file" button". I am an autoconfirmed user.--Nicky Da B 13:28, 1 August 2013 (PDT)

Thanks for the info on reporting spam, I'm new to this. --Tigerslicer 18:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Current wave of spam

I suggest making the blacklist invisible to everyone except administrators. Whoever is operating these bots seems to be adapting them based on your changes. Solokiller (talk) 21:09, 20 May 2016 (UTC)