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Carve

what the hell is your obsession with carve dude Unsigned comment added by SlimekPL (talkcontribs). Please use four tildes (~~~~) to sign your username.

Carve is a neglected and stereotyped tool, not my fault you can't use it correctly :shrug: Ficool2 (talk) 12:55, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
get some mental help dude Unsigned comment added by SlimekPL (talkcontribs). Please use four tildes (~~~~) to sign your username.
Hi. This edit was a joke. Honestly I HOPE none of you proofread it even. The fact not one but two people (the edit was live five times total) reverted back to an edit joking about carve being regarded as a big shiny red button labeled "nuke earth" really underlines that you guys have no clue what you're talking about. As ficool says, you're just repeating whatever master TwatHATTwaffle says and hilariously, his is the exact discord server I traced your off-wiki conversations about this drama to.
Darnias: That picture is out of date anyway. Carve doesn't even do the cuts in the same directions anymore. I tested this myself (which noooobody does around here anymore), and there wasn't even decimal loss like everybody says. It was probably just an issue back in 2005 with Hammer's 3d renderer. Erik also did not upload that picture in order to demonstrate carve is bad. Please, all of you, quit being so goddamn stupid. Loudslappingsounds (talk) 18:41, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Reply to Loudslappingsounds; this image right here is a carve square just like in that image from 2005 [1] and this is .vmf [2], explain me how -1.90735e-05 is an okay number. Speak for yourself with stupid people. Darnias (talk) 19:03, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
'-1.90735e-05 is actually an okay number. VBSP rounds numbers to a margin of ~0.03, therefore this actually doesn't cause any issues unless its severely imprecise, which I doubt.Ficool2 (talk) 19:13, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Alright, so Darnias, I will give you merit there. Strangely, I have completely different results: for me, the numbers are perfectly whole integers but also when I carve I don't have all the individual blocks become different colors so there must be some sort of discrepancy between Hammer builds. Loudslappingsounds (talk) 19:07, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
They're different colors, because they've been ungrouped. Darnias (talk) 19:08, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Alright. Me not knowing that isn't really a reason to call me mentally retarded but uh here's the numbers in my vmf. Loudslappingsounds (talk) 19:21, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Never said anything about 'mentally retarded', literally quoted your last message before that. Hammer fucks up decimals after you save, maybe try that. Either way I proved my point, you guys can keep fucking with VDC how you want, this is literally a waste of time for me. Nobody is gonna care about two guys proclaiming carve is ok when other 99.9% don't want to use it and know it's bad. Have a nice day. Darnias (talk) 19:30, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
You did call me retarded off-wiki. I did save after I carved, and those are the numbers that resulted. Loudslappingsounds (talk) 19:33, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm starting to believe he has forged the results he has gotten to prove his arguments, I did some testing myself and I have not reached any decimals at all, even when carving with a complex shape.Ficool2 (talk) 19:38, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Idk if I'd go that far. The cuts in his image were horizontal while mine were vertical though. I guess I'll try in CSGO hammer too. Loudslappingsounds (talk) 19:41, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Ok so CSGO hammer was fine, Alien Swarm hammer was fine, HL2 hammer DID cut horizontally, but still no decimal problems. Loudslappingsounds (talk) 19:56, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Carve - Josh

Stop writing that carve is good. The carve tool has accuracy issues and creates disgusting tris. I'm not saying it doesn't have its uses, but it generally should be avoided unless at all necessary -- and even then what you make should likely be func_detailed and replaced with simpler geometry for vis pass.

- Josh JoshuaAshton (talk)
Accuracy issues don't occur with Carve unless you are using some more than a block, and even in that case you can just do Ctrl + B in vertex manipulation mode to fix the inaccuracies Ficool2 (talk) 23:13, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
"unless you are using some more than a block," which is what you'd be using carve for anyway because that's much quicker? It's still bad practice anyway, the cuts it makes are very non-friendly JoshuaAshton (talk)