Talk:Building Mods with Valve Technology

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General

  • "The SDK is updated continuously and automatically, including new features (like HDR)"

Should this be "The SDK is updated every year or so, at valves discretion"?

Too true! In fact: "The SDK is updated whenever Valve feels like breaking something." --Faubi 18:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


  • "Complimented with in depth community tutorials"

Should this be "Complemented with in depth community tutorials"? --n-neko 23:13, 20 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Yup. (And "in depth" should be "in-depth".) —Maven (talk) 11:28, 21 Oct 2005 (PDT)

MSVC 2003

This section should also include something about also needing MSVC 2003. I felt kind of burned when I started work on my first MOD and got to the point where it says "OK! Now just fire up Microsoft Visual C++ 2003...". I'm still running MSVC 6, which works fine for everything else I've worked on. At this point I'm just going to work on non-Source projects until the (free) MSVC 2005 Express support is released. :(X Luvcraft 09:11, 22 Dec 2005 (PST)

Yes, the title "Included: all of the tools used to build Half-Life 2" is a bit misleading. `zozart .chat @ 07:36, 22 Jan 2006 (PST)

Update

This page needs the following:—ts2do 21:06, 19 Mar 2006 (PST)

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Should also add HDR to the feature list! --Steamfraiser 19:26, 29 May 2006 (PDT)

Headings

There are quite a few HRs on that page. It looks a bit confusing, as they are usually for splitting sections up but the list in the article is all the same thing. Going down a heading size would probably be a good thing. --TomEdwards 00:09, 20 Mar 2006 (PST)


xsi

why exactly does it say that source SDK comes with xsi? Unless I am very, very mistaken, this is a very, very false statement. --Darthkillyou 19:54, 18 Oct 2007 (PDT)

Source SDK directly links to XSI. --Baliame 08:44, 19 Oct 2007 (PDT)

Wrong information about ownership

> And if you already own Half-Life 2 or Counter-Strike: Source, you've already got access to the full SDK.

Source SDK is also included with Day of Defeat: Source, Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2, Team Fortress 2, Half-Life 2 Episode One and Half-Life 2 Episode Two.

And Portal. --Faubi 18:54, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Old information about getting Source SDK

"And if you already own Half-Life 2 or Counter-Strike: Source, you've already got access to the full SDK."

Anyone can get the SDK free of charge, with Alien Swarm. Perhaps that should be mentioned there. BZRatfink 19:51, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Alien Swarm Authoring tools != Source SDK --Omnicoder 01:39, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Source SDK is now free via Steam, so I really think this should be changed. --£cho 12:36, 21 July 2011 (PDT)
Yep, Doesn't TF give access to full SDK? --Disactive 05:10, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
Guess what: Valve doesn't care anymore. They make money off of Steam sales, not licensing Source engine or even developing new games. Geez, even this site isn't updated or even grammar-wise corrected. Unsigned comment added by ‎Bisonfan95 (talkcontribs). Please use four tildes (~~~~) or {{Message}} template to sign your username.

Available Translations

Russian/PусскийMattshu 09:36, 20 July 2012 (PDT)

Spanish/Español by Carfox (talk) 04:28, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

General Talking

This is one of the funniest pages I've ever read on anything. The fact that the page is protected to block vandalism just adds so much more to it. -- 12:30, 10 December 2020 Wolfcl0ck
Why was this page protected in first place? It has no history of being vandalized, why should it be funny, and what more does it add to it? It kind of doesn't make sense why this page is protected at all. There were only 2 people actually updating it and doesn't make sense why should it even be protected. -- Freeman12393 (talk)
Honestly, the protection on the page is absolutely unneeded. All this is doing is slowing down the process of editing, to make the page more correct. If you press on a different language in the page, you'll get new language choices. There are several things that could've been done over this page, but because it's protected it just doesn't allow. This page wasn't even vandalized that often. -- Freeman12393 (talk)

It's marketing directly from Valve. From 2005. It was just meant to sell the modding community on the Source engine at the time. — Dr. Orange talk · contributions 11:23, 16 March 2022 (PDT)
Well it doesn't seem exactly like it. This is a wiki page. If it's protected then it means it's protected for a reason. Leave this page alone then. -- Freeman12393 (talk)
However, if you do think that this is solely marketing - this is your opinion. -- Freeman12393 (talk)

This page has seemingly been protected since its creation, and only ever been edited by Valve employees. This page is likely intended to be a landing page or introduction to new developers wanting to make a mod for the Source engine, and not part of the general technical documentation of the rest of the wiki. To me at least, the page itself reads very much like a sales pitch compared to the recommended article style of the rest of the wiki. — Dr. Orange talk · contributions 14:19, 17 March 2022 (PDT)